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tdavis | 10 years ago

Kids, this isn't hard. Just apply a little logic. Statements like "all I care about is what you have done/created/accomplished" is predicated on the notion that everyone is already equal. That we all have the same access to opportunity, encouragement, resources, etc. Whether through malice or simple disinterest, you've managed to hold onto a basic assumption that would be exceedingly trivial for you to disprove.

And that's why programs like this are still necessary. Because it isn't about you. Nobody gives the tiniest shit that you "couldn't care less" (which is obviously untrue given your blatant condescension, but whatever). Is there gender discrimination in technology? Yes, obviously. You can't turn around without running into research supporting it.

We could all continue to imagine there isn't; that our personal metrics for measuring the worth of another human being is the source of truth for an entire industry or society. As someone who suffers no discrimination, it's the most convenient thing for me! But, hard as it is to believe, some people actually lose in this scenario. And apparently they're still upset about it!

Whether through gender discrimination that continues to limit a woman's choice in career and within her own body, or the systemic racism that has managed to convince many that black people simply want to be poor and shot by police, we (the U.S.) as a society have no shortage of willfully-ignorant assumptions about equality. How about doing us all a favor by becoming a little less ignorant? It doesn't hurt, I promise.

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hueving|10 years ago

>That we all have the same access to opportunity, encouragement, resources, etc.

Taking this to its logical conclusion then. Are you saying that "What have you done, and what are you working on?" is sexist because focusing on if people are working on something useful is sexist? If so, you are implying that women are not as useful, which sort of contradicts the idea that women are being underpaid for doing the same work.

So which is it? Is it that women are underprivileged and therefore producing less output, or should they be paid equally because they are doing the same?

kefka|10 years ago

And this is the trap with sexist thoughts, like feminism and SJWs.

Either pat them on their heads and go "Good try", or pretend that the females you hired are "equal" (animal farm) and put them in dumb roles.

nugga|10 years ago

Morgan Freeman said it right when asked how to combat racism. His answer: stop talking about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2d2SzRZvsQ

Stuff like this just creates undue resistance and ill will.

Joeboy|10 years ago

Maybe the way to stop people making websites about gender issues in tech is to stop complaining about it?

colllectorof|10 years ago

> Statements like "all I care about is what you have done/created/accomplished" is predicated on the notion that everyone is already equal.

You're implying that you're so clever, perceptive and knowledgeable that you can make the entire industry "fair" by reverse-discriminating in all the right cases? Hah. That's exactly how various flavors of discrimination pop up and solidify in the first place. Plus, the law of unintended consequences will always take its toll.