Learning the truth about many of those misconceptions even before discovering the whole list is what ultimately broke my trust in mainstream opinion. The whole time since I left high school has been a period of systematic unlearning of all the bullshit I've been taught - by teachers, friends, families and talking heads. Just how the hell is an adult supposed to live if every other day they discover another thing they thought is obvious is actually wrong? This is one of those things that really pisses me off about reality.
> It is rarely necessary to wait 24 hours before filing a missing person report; in instances where there is evidence of violence or of an unusual absence, law enforcement agencies in the United States often stress the importance of beginning an investigation promptly. The UK government website says explicitly in large type "You don't have to wait 24 hours before contacting the police".
Saw this myth repeated on one of those John Walsh type cop shows the other day.
The "everything you know about X is wrong" cliche always bugged me. I don't mind a little straw man to make a point, but not when I'm the straw man. I never really thought I knew anything about chastity belts!
It sounds that chastity belts are more of a long running trope than an actual thing, which sounds about right.
But, art imitates life imitates art especially when rule 34 gets involved. Once this idea was uploaded into the medieval blogosphere, joke or not, it almost certainly became real.
> But, art imitates life imitates art especially when rule 34 gets involved. Once this idea was uploaded into the medieval blogosphere, joke or not, it almost certainly became real.
For women, it's a fantasy about male cruelty and control.
Seems misogynist and like some uninformed male opinion not based on actual research or talking to women. Other than that one line, yeah, it sounds good. Actually locking women in an iron chastity belt would have horrifying health consequences. That doesn't mean people wouldn't do it anyway. Historically, women sometimes had ribs removed to accommodate the fashion of wearing a corset. But I haven't seen medical references to the serious medical problems this would cause. So I can readily believe this was a joke, not a reality.
The author was possibly referring to how chastity belts are often used in less-informed feminist writing as an example of how patriarchy looked in the past.
In germany every child, mother and father has the right to get a paternity test. If any party refuses to give his/her consent to a paternity test you have to get a court order and that will replace the missing consent.
It is illegal to get a paternity test, when one of the parties doesn't consent and you don't get a court order. The order is just a formality, very cheap and you don't need a laywer. This formality exists, because in germany it is generally forbidden to get a genetic fingerprint of a person without his/her consent.
Edit: In Germany a father has to accept fatherhood. If the mother denies a paternity test, he is not liable for child support. A court will usually order a paternity test if a father refuses to accept fatherhodd or the mother denies a paternity test.
So if you are in doubt - the only thing you have to do is claim that you doubt and the full support of the state will be with you.
Paternity tests are not banned in France. At will, secret, testing is banned. Parents can get court orders if they want a paternity test.
The US is similar: although there are kits you can buy off the shelf the results are for personal knowledge only and can't be used in legal proceedings. If you want to use a paternity test in court you need a court ordered paternity test from an accredited lab.
Well, of course the middle ages would never invent sex toys - that chastity belts exist now can only mean they are recent, because people had not kinky fantasies back then.
Kink was a lot easier back then, because anything other than man-on-woman top-down missionary penetration was either not considered sex, or was blasphemous/unnatural. But there's also evidence of a lot of kink going on, even if it was somewhat tame by today's standards. The simplest examples were fashion that emphasized the male's, uh, manliness, like the poulaine shoes and codpieces.
The most popular sex trope of the day was probably 'the wayward nun' and 'the mischevious monk'. Plenty of people have written about sexual misconduct in the clergy - probably far more than was actually happening - because of the inherent naughtiness of the chaste getting away with lascivious behavior. Then there's just the stories in general of religious or political figures being objectified and chased after like veritable Ricky Martins, and of course, always gallantly rejecting all these people trying to fuck them all the time. Sir Gaiwan and the Green Knight, a poem from the 14th century, does much with the trope of Knights as manly men who are constantly being lusted after and rejecting random women's objectification of them, and has plenty of bondage jokes, apparently.
One of my favorite stories is from a book on the history of flagellation. There was some traveling monk who got called on by a woman while he was passing her house, and she was asking him for help or something, so of course he went in with her - while her husband was away - but only to help, of course. Once inside, she throws herself on him, trying to fuck him for like a good four hours, him rejecting her advances the entire time of course. Finally he succumbs. (Awwww, poor monk!) And as a result of her wickedness, he flagellates her for another couple hours so she can pay for her sins. When the husband comes home to see his wife beaten & flogged by this monk, the monk tells him the whole story. The husband's response? Thank god you beat & flogged her! Now she won't have to pay for her sins in the afterlife!
The Handbook of Medieval Sexuality goes over some other common examples of 'unusual' sex documented in the middle ages, such as homosexuality, cross-dressing/gender role change, prostitution, contraception, castration, etc. And sure, we had to wait 'til the 17th and 18th century to see famous examples of kinky personalities such as John Wilmot and the Marquis de Sade, but you have to assume there were others rejecting the puritan attitudes of the day before them.
[+] [-] OnleMeMeMe|10 years ago|reply
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_common_misconceptions
Beside chastity belts my favorite is the myth of the flat earth.
[+] [-] TeMPOraL|10 years ago|reply
[+] [-] fnordfnordfnord|10 years ago|reply
Saw this myth repeated on one of those John Walsh type cop shows the other day.
[+] [-] itsybitsycoder|10 years ago|reply
[+] [-] romanovcode|10 years ago|reply
[+] [-] netcan|10 years ago|reply
It sounds that chastity belts are more of a long running trope than an actual thing, which sounds about right.
But, art imitates life imitates art especially when rule 34 gets involved. Once this idea was uploaded into the medieval blogosphere, joke or not, it almost certainly became real.
[+] [-] TazeTSchnitzel|10 years ago|reply
As the final paragraph notes.
[+] [-] Mz|10 years ago|reply
For women, it's a fantasy about male cruelty and control.
Seems misogynist and like some uninformed male opinion not based on actual research or talking to women. Other than that one line, yeah, it sounds good. Actually locking women in an iron chastity belt would have horrifying health consequences. That doesn't mean people wouldn't do it anyway. Historically, women sometimes had ribs removed to accommodate the fashion of wearing a corset. But I haven't seen medical references to the serious medical problems this would cause. So I can readily believe this was a joke, not a reality.
[+] [-] TazeTSchnitzel|10 years ago|reply
> Seems misogynist and like some uninformed male opinion not based on actual research or talking to women.
What people want in sexual fantasies doesn't have to align with what they want in a relationship. BDSM is a testament to that.
[+] [-] Nadya|10 years ago|reply
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot_binding
[+] [-] mkr-hn|10 years ago|reply
[+] [-] CmonDev|10 years ago|reply
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[+] [-] dang|10 years ago|reply
"Please avoid introducing classic flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say about them."
Your off-topic comment overwhelmed and ruined the thread, and provoked users to flag a fine story about medieval and 18th century history.
Please don't post things like this. Their awful effect is predictable.
[+] [-] venomsnake|10 years ago|reply
In germany every child, mother and father has the right to get a paternity test. If any party refuses to give his/her consent to a paternity test you have to get a court order and that will replace the missing consent. It is illegal to get a paternity test, when one of the parties doesn't consent and you don't get a court order. The order is just a formality, very cheap and you don't need a laywer. This formality exists, because in germany it is generally forbidden to get a genetic fingerprint of a person without his/her consent. Edit: In Germany a father has to accept fatherhood. If the mother denies a paternity test, he is not liable for child support. A court will usually order a paternity test if a father refuses to accept fatherhodd or the mother denies a paternity test.
So if you are in doubt - the only thing you have to do is claim that you doubt and the full support of the state will be with you.
[+] [-] DanBC|10 years ago|reply
The US is similar: although there are kits you can buy off the shelf the results are for personal knowledge only and can't be used in legal proceedings. If you want to use a paternity test in court you need a court ordered paternity test from an accredited lab.
[+] [-] iSnow|10 years ago|reply
[+] [-] peterwwillis|10 years ago|reply
The most popular sex trope of the day was probably 'the wayward nun' and 'the mischevious monk'. Plenty of people have written about sexual misconduct in the clergy - probably far more than was actually happening - because of the inherent naughtiness of the chaste getting away with lascivious behavior. Then there's just the stories in general of religious or political figures being objectified and chased after like veritable Ricky Martins, and of course, always gallantly rejecting all these people trying to fuck them all the time. Sir Gaiwan and the Green Knight, a poem from the 14th century, does much with the trope of Knights as manly men who are constantly being lusted after and rejecting random women's objectification of them, and has plenty of bondage jokes, apparently.
One of my favorite stories is from a book on the history of flagellation. There was some traveling monk who got called on by a woman while he was passing her house, and she was asking him for help or something, so of course he went in with her - while her husband was away - but only to help, of course. Once inside, she throws herself on him, trying to fuck him for like a good four hours, him rejecting her advances the entire time of course. Finally he succumbs. (Awwww, poor monk!) And as a result of her wickedness, he flagellates her for another couple hours so she can pay for her sins. When the husband comes home to see his wife beaten & flogged by this monk, the monk tells him the whole story. The husband's response? Thank god you beat & flogged her! Now she won't have to pay for her sins in the afterlife!
The Handbook of Medieval Sexuality goes over some other common examples of 'unusual' sex documented in the middle ages, such as homosexuality, cross-dressing/gender role change, prostitution, contraception, castration, etc. And sure, we had to wait 'til the 17th and 18th century to see famous examples of kinky personalities such as John Wilmot and the Marquis de Sade, but you have to assume there were others rejecting the puritan attitudes of the day before them.