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pyrocat | 10 years ago

> better-supported-by-evidence

hah, ok, go ahead and make that claim with zero links to back it up. Please, tell me more about eugenics.

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vox_mollis|10 years ago

Steve Hsu giving a talk @ Google on the topic, with myriad citations:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62jZENi1ed8

Four studies cited on this handy chart:

https://jaymans.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/iq-heritability-...

It's very well-established science that you could have easily googled, but downvoting unpopular research, pointing and shrieking "eugenics!" is a better argumentation technique, I suppose.

burkaman|10 years ago

Saying genes contribute to intelligence is not eugenics. Here's the first link I saw: http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/v20/n1/full/mp2014105a.html

From the abstract: "Intelligence is one of the most heritable behavioural traits."

wyago|10 years ago

Native language is an almost perfectly heritable trait, but that does not imply it is genetic.

(However, it is true that saying that genes contribute to intelligence isn't eugenics. Eugenics is a methodology where you attempt to selectively breed humankind by broader intent, rather than by emergent properties of human tendencies. A proposed trait to optimize is often intelligence, but similarly frequently it's attractiveness and things like that. Genetic influence on intelligence is simply a hypothesis whose testing would have consequences on the practice of eugenics.)

------- edit ------- I see your reply to the other comment. I think a quote from the article that makes your point far better is "[...] studies have consistently shown that genetic influence on individual differences in intelligence is substantial." I negligently assumed you were specifically talking about heritability.

danharaj|10 years ago

Heritability is a relative measurement. You need to know what environmental factors you are controlling for in order to measure it. Because we live in societies that are highly stratified based on attributes that are genetically linked there can be environmental effects on intelligence that are difficult or impossible to correct for that create a correlation between genetics and intelligence.