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Linode and the Google Cyber Attacks

109 points| markwalling | 16 years ago |blog.linode.com | reply

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[+] donw|16 years ago|reply
Totally unrelated to the article, but I've got to put my good word in for Linode. I've never had such good service from a hosting provider, and frankly for a (currently) tiny account.
[+] axod|16 years ago|reply
Agreed. They helped me compile a custom kernel the other day on IRC, they have simply awesome support.
[+] rms|16 years ago|reply
http://prgmr.com/xen/ gets good reviews here, is run by a HN member, and has the cheapest prices out of any VPS by far.
[+] mleonhard|16 years ago|reply
Yeah, I've had a $20 Linode virt for a couple of years and it's been pretty reliable.
[+] uggedal|16 years ago|reply
I've been running http://wasitup.com on Linode the last months and I've been pleased with their stablity except for a 9 minute network outage earlier today (to their credit they were able to resolve it quickly while communicating the status to us end users). For my opinion on the performance characteristics you'd have to read my article on the matter: http://journal.uggedal.com/vps-performance-comparison
[+] idlewords|16 years ago|reply
If you go by monthly cost per GB of memory or especially storage, Linode is one of the most expensive options out there (~$60/GB RAM, $1.25/GB storage).

They do have pretty graphs, though!

[+] wheels|16 years ago|reply
Bad day for the praise. Their Newark-based servers dropped off the net for about 10 minutes today, though in general I've been really happy with them.
[+] staunch|16 years ago|reply
I take it Google used Linode as a neutral/anonymous place to access stuff from?
[+] romland|16 years ago|reply
I read it that way too. But I am still very curious where and in which context Linode was mentioned in media.
[+] tptacek|16 years ago|reply
One article I saw implicated a Rackspace server in the attacker's side of event. I presume that meant Slicehost.

If I was breaking into computers "off the clock", I'd probably look to just-a-CC# no-questions-asked hosting providers (probably overseas) as my staging ground. This is something new. Commodity virtualized VPS systems like Slicehost are an awfully convenient way to launder attacks.

It's only been in the last couple years that VM slices have been so quick and easy to buy.

[+] cmelbye|16 years ago|reply
Right, that's why cloud services like EC2 and Rackspace Cloud Servers are being used for stuff like spam. Spammer can just buy a temporary instance for a few cents then take it down. That's also why many "cloud IPs" are being added to some spam blacklists, unfortunately.
[+] ErrantX|16 years ago|reply
End of last year we had someone attacking a clients network using commodity server instances.

If you can figure out a cut-out way to pay for the server time then there isn't much anyone can do to track it without getting on the ground and forcing local police forces into at least trying to make some headway.

So in effect it is kinda the same as it used to be (overseas, no questions providers) but instead of the servers being the overseas bit it is just the payment (and I guess they rely on the fact intrusion is hard to detect, unlike say spam, coupled with the sheer number of people buying instances daily now).

(our stuff led to Eastern Europe so it is unrelated - but the principle is similar).

[+] mikeliu|16 years ago|reply
Except to pay for one of these, you still pay via credit card, paypal, etc. that links to real identifiable info. I was wondering why, if one of the attackers instances were discovered by google, they didn't just hand it over to the authorities and have them get a subpoena for the account info? or maybe they did
[+] polera|16 years ago|reply
Linode is great, indeed. I'm a fan of http://arpnetworks.com lately, though. Great service there too, and a good product for a good price.