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‘Outsiders’ who cracked the 50-Year-Old Kadison-Singer Problem

108 points| retupmoc01 | 10 years ago |quantamagazine.org | reply

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[+] mathgenius|10 years ago|reply
> The fact that he, Srivastava and Spielman were able to solve it “says something about what I hope will be the future of mathematics,” he said. When mathematicians import ideas across fields, “that’s when I think these really interesting jumps in knowledge happen.”

So much yes.

Academia is hyper-focused, over specializing everywhere. There is little incentive to spending time making one's work understandable to a wider audience. I would argue that this is actually dis-incentivised as the downside to "making it look easy" is very bad indeed. But it's worse than this: the typical academic seems to have little ability to even explain their work to others within the same micro-field. Once again, the emphasis is on making it look as complicated as possible, in the interests of securing prestige (and funding).

[+] seventytwo|10 years ago|reply
> There is little incentive to spending time making one's work understandable to a wider audience.

I wonder if there's a way to create incentive here? Or perhaps even a need to fill for the academics who are poor at explaining their work? Maybe some kind of layman's explanation service for technical papers with the authors' hope that by better explaining their research, they might be able to gain a wider audience or be more often referenced?

[+] glxc|10 years ago|reply
When will there be more info about YC Research??
[+] Ar-Curunir|10 years ago|reply
The article headline is incorrect. Theoretical Computer Scientists are mathematicians as well...
[+] noiseman|10 years ago|reply
Computer scientists are hardly "outsiders" to math problems. The famous computer scientists (Turing, Knuth, Dijkstra etc) were all mathematicians by training.
[+] k2enemy|10 years ago|reply
Absolutely nowhere in the article did it suggest that computer scientists are outsiders to math problems.
[+] mherrmann|10 years ago|reply
I think it's intriguing that they took an experimental approach to what is originally a theoretical problem: Generate lots of examples with a computer and see if you notice any patterns.
[+] AngrySkillzz|10 years ago|reply
We do that all the time in mathematics though; generate some random examples of the phenomena you're investigating to see if there are any "easy" counterexamples. If not, try to visualize them and see if patterns emerge. This is an easy way to build up intuition on a problem: seeing "how" something behaves gives you clues about where to look when you go to prove it.
[+] jackmaney|10 years ago|reply
Some of the first code I ever wrote outside of a classroom was in Mathematica to generate examples that would later fuel the results in a set of two papers (in pure mathematics).
[+] wrigby|10 years ago|reply
Unrelated to the actual content, but am I the only one driven crazy by the way that bridge rectifier is hooked up?
[+] amatus|10 years ago|reply
Sometimes you need a diode and all you have in your parts bin is a bridge rectifier with half the current capacity.
[+] kitd|10 years ago|reply
Pftt. The guy measuring the capacitor has got his leads the wrong way round.
[+] bsder|10 years ago|reply
“All of us were completely convinced it had a negative answer, so none of us was actually trying to prove it”

The problem was preconceived bias, not ability to prove.

[+] OJFord|10 years ago|reply
Could do with a "[2013]", just to be clear this is an editorial on the history of the problem and solution, rather than "actual news" of a problem just cracked.

(Very interesting regardless though)

[+] dang|10 years ago|reply
We edited the title so it wouldn't imply that the solution itself was news.