[michaelvkpdx]

If your mindset is $$$ first it doesn't matter where you live. We have a ton of valley expats here in Portland. The ones who are really artists and creatives at heart and work to subsidize their outside lives tend to thrive here. The ones who just want to live more cheaply end up miserable because this is not California North.

Wanna move to Portland? By all means come on up! But leave your dot-com privilege and your "live to impress VC's" mentality back home. Come to Oregon and be an Oregonian.

Also- if you're attached to your car, Portland is not for you. The commutes from the 'burbs are as nasty as the Bay Area, and the inner city is made for biking and walking. Your car is good for the weekends- getting to the Coast and the Mountains- but not for your work week. Change your perspective on commuting. This ain't CAr-ifornia

Note- I said "weekends", meaning Saturday and Sunday when you are not working. If that is a foreign concept to you, Oregon is not for you.

[swang]

Holy cow are you a character from Portlandia?

I mean I was fine with most of what you said until you literally wrote, CAr-ifornia. What? People actually use that word and expect to be taken seriously?

I mean maybe there are people who talk too much about VCs, but your post didn't make you sound any better than those people. Talk about exclusionary.

[nedwin]

"The ones who just want to live more cheaply end up miserable because this is not California North." Why do you think that is?

I'm interested in it due to the lifestyle but also the idea of being able to afford to bootstrap my next company in the next year or so. My gf had a friend who moved up but couldn't stand the lack of sun (former San Diegoan) - this has made her reticent to make the move from our rent-controlled shoebox...

[alexc05]

Wow. That makes me really want to move to Portland! Sounds glorious.