top | item 11271809 (no title) ntucker | 10 years ago My point is that you don't have to do the encryption on the device. You can send/store encrypted data via compromised devices and channels. discuss order hn newest mirimir|10 years ago Yes. And you can obfuscate it. You can even encode it using packet timing, which is very hard to detect. It's also very inefficient, on the order of 1%, but that's enough for text over HD video. See True Names by Vernor Vinge. DanBC|10 years ago You can't trust the device - it's compromised. So even if you use encryption with that compromised device the plain text still leaks. mirimir|10 years ago Not if the encrypted text was created on a trusted device.Consider that, as it is now, encrypted data on the Internet traverses numerous untrusted devices.For an extreme example, see https://github.com/maqp/tfc-otp load replies (1) plugnburn|10 years ago There still are some encryption schemes that can be run with nothing more than a pencil and paper. See SMSPP for example: https://gist.github.com/plugnburn/6b50ceee3a89893a9e48You can also use straddling checkerboards if you can do some very simple math.
mirimir|10 years ago Yes. And you can obfuscate it. You can even encode it using packet timing, which is very hard to detect. It's also very inefficient, on the order of 1%, but that's enough for text over HD video. See True Names by Vernor Vinge.
DanBC|10 years ago You can't trust the device - it's compromised. So even if you use encryption with that compromised device the plain text still leaks. mirimir|10 years ago Not if the encrypted text was created on a trusted device.Consider that, as it is now, encrypted data on the Internet traverses numerous untrusted devices.For an extreme example, see https://github.com/maqp/tfc-otp load replies (1) plugnburn|10 years ago There still are some encryption schemes that can be run with nothing more than a pencil and paper. See SMSPP for example: https://gist.github.com/plugnburn/6b50ceee3a89893a9e48You can also use straddling checkerboards if you can do some very simple math.
mirimir|10 years ago Not if the encrypted text was created on a trusted device.Consider that, as it is now, encrypted data on the Internet traverses numerous untrusted devices.For an extreme example, see https://github.com/maqp/tfc-otp load replies (1)
plugnburn|10 years ago There still are some encryption schemes that can be run with nothing more than a pencil and paper. See SMSPP for example: https://gist.github.com/plugnburn/6b50ceee3a89893a9e48You can also use straddling checkerboards if you can do some very simple math.
mirimir|10 years ago
DanBC|10 years ago
mirimir|10 years ago
Consider that, as it is now, encrypted data on the Internet traverses numerous untrusted devices.
For an extreme example, see https://github.com/maqp/tfc-otp
plugnburn|10 years ago
You can also use straddling checkerboards if you can do some very simple math.