[moistgorilla]

>My bias is my personal relationship with engineers abroad who are paid fractions of what we are. I am completely aware of my own bias and do not consider my position to be the "universally correct" position. I don't think such a thing exists.

My suggestion may go against your preference since it wont always help your engineer friends but I think dynamic targeted immigration at jobs that are suffering from worker shortage is the solution. What we have now is a disaster though, a long lasting law targeting fields that may not even need the increased supply in workers anymore.

I personally have nothing against immigrants, the people I have met are in general amazing. But I have my own interests to take care of before I can consider others.

Also H-1Bs target IT in general but is the sort of IT that disney laid off really facing a labor shortage?

>What I do find to be self-contradictory, is when many Bay Area tech workers support protectionism for their own interests (immigration) but oppose protectionism that oppose their own interests (housing development).

I'm not from the bay area so I don't know the fine details of the housing market but are you talking about engineers supporting building more apartments? Also if they are acting in a hypocritical way you would be right to call them out on it.

[hkmurakami]

And I respect your well reasoned position, even if it does go against my own interests -- even after being called a hypocrite ;)