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Introducing the HP Jet Fusion 3D Printing Solution

44 points| protomyth | 9 years ago |h20435.www2.hp.com | reply

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[+] azdle|9 years ago|reply
A slightly more informative video about how it works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeTdo-w6Qx8

Edit: And another much more informative video about the actual printing process: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXntl3ff5tc

Looks like it uses black ink printing onto plastic beads spread on a printing bed to make some sections melt under light and others not.

Edit2: Probably not actually "black" but "UV Absorbing" for the ink.

[+] gene-h|9 years ago|reply
It almost certainly uses black ink. All parts produced with the machine they have now are to be black. It technically doesn't use beads, it uses plastic powder. It works exactly as you described though.
[+] tudorw|9 years ago|reply
the contained waste material recovery is a nice touch :) now, where did I put my piggy bank...
[+] analognoise|9 years ago|reply
Fyi: The printer is $130,000.

I'm not saying it isn't great, but it's not exactly for home use. Or if it IS for your home, you have an amazing home, can I please come live with you and use your printer?

[+] protomyth|9 years ago|reply
I've often thought that a new version of the Copy Shop (e.g. Kinkos) would probably be a better start for mass 3D printing because the machine could be much better than the home model and people really don't need to use it that frequently yet. $130,000 might be good enough for that use.
[+] samstave|9 years ago|reply
Are you paying for the resolution or the new tech?
[+] knightofmars|9 years ago|reply
"Insert the pre-packed HP 3D Materials cartridges into the HP Jet Fusion 3D Processing Station." Will the use of 3rd party materials cartridges void my HP Jet Fusion 3D Processing station warranty? ;)
[+] gene-h|9 years ago|reply
Supposedly they are making the materials it can use 'open,' meaning that you might be able to refill it with your own powder. The interesting thing is, they have to do this because of the market they are targeting.

HP is targeting the service bureau market with this machine. Services bureaus are companies that 3d print parts for people. Service bureaus really like to run a wide variety of different materials. Like special high strength blends, flexible, lost wax casting blends, and special fireproof materials for airplanes. Running different materials lets service bureaus differentiate themselves from other service bureaus. In addition, certain markets like lost wax casting and aerospace have to use certain special materials.

Although what HP might end up doing is selling ink or inkjet heads. This machine literally works by spraying black ink down where one wants part.

[+] TheOtherHobbes|9 years ago|reply
Probably. I doubt you'll be seeing third-party budget materials any time soon.

The printer looks interesting, but the PR is kind of insane. I'd really like to know some basic specs - speed, max object size, and so on - but I can't find them easily under the tsunami of marketing awesome.

[+] huuu|9 years ago|reply
In the mean time Carbon (http://carbon3d.com/) has also 'reinvented' 3D printing but can show a working model: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2thSsQrZUM

I think Carbon will change 3D printing because they provide better chemical / structural (layer less) properties and better speed so it is more suitable for production models.

[+] fudged71|9 years ago|reply
There are now several startups claiming to have "fast" photopolymer printing technologies. However Carbon is more about the materials R&D than the machine, it was merely a tool. CLIP is the most legitimized with press, funding, customers, and IP. (I just met the Carbon folks today to see their machines)
[+] nharada|9 years ago|reply
Can someone familiar with the space speak to how much of this is advertising and how much is genuine progress/innovation?
[+] fudged71|9 years ago|reply
I am currently at the Rapid conference in Orlando where the HP announcement was made. When the technology was first announced last year I'm pretty sure they were the only ones using this kind of process. There are a few different powder/binder/inkjet type machines out there now but I don't think anyone is doing fusion in the same way.

The entire discipline of additive manufacturing is rapidly expanding with new processes and applications.

[+] gene-h|9 years ago|reply
The hype is real and I really hope HP doesn't fuck this up. HP seems to have invented a new additive manufacturing process(if you have prior art let me know!) that does the same thing as laser sintering except without a laser. Getting rid of the laser is a pretty big deal. Lasers are expensive and expensive to operate because they are inefficient. Because they're inefficient you need to cool them.

Laser sintering is also slow because you have to scan a dot all over the place. You could make this faster, except now you need more lasers. Transitioning from a dot scan, a laser, to a line scan, a big wide inkjet, is where they are getting such a speed improvement.

They also seem to have removed the need for an inert gas purge system, which laser sintering machines must use(although I'm not 100% sure this is the case).

In all likelihood, they have probably made laser sintering obsolete and service bureaus are probably scrambling to buy these machines as we speak.

But, thing is they didn't just stop at making laser sintering obsolete. Because they can print strong parts in color they have probably made some other additive manufacturing processes obsolete too. Z-corp's 3d printing(what the phrase '3d printing actually refers to') which makes parts in color with about the structural capacity of chocolate.

[+] smpetrey|9 years ago|reply
Is this even real? I didn't even see any printing take place.
[+] chinathrow|9 years ago|reply
Sure real. Printing is demoed within the first video where you see laser beams working on a powder bed.
[+] fudged71|9 years ago|reply
Yes I saw it hours ago in person
[+] msie|9 years ago|reply
Funny, was there footage of actual 3D printing taking place?
[+] Frompo|9 years ago|reply
Judging from the more informative videos linked in other comments, there is a brief timelapse shot of the printing. But I agree that with all the other CGI it is hard to trust it is a real timelapse shot.
[+] jondiggsit|9 years ago|reply
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[+] kilroy123|9 years ago|reply
Who is the target market for this kind of printer?
[+] gene-h|9 years ago|reply
Service bureaus. Companies that 3d print parts for people. Imagine a data center, except instead of servers you have row after row of 3d printers.
[+] nimish|9 years ago|reply
HP PageWide in 3d. The 2d printers are really nice, and don't suck down power like lasers.

These look like production presses but for 3d parts

[+] spitfire|9 years ago|reply
But will they Carlie Fiorina you on the ink? History says yes.