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The world of mushroom growing

97 points| sergioisidoro | 9 years ago |medium.com | reply

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[+] pluteoid|9 years ago|reply
>All the techniques that I learned can be applied to cultivate any kind of mushroom...

If only this were true. Sterile culture techniques only work for the subset of species that aren't obligately mycorrhizal (forming mutualisms with plants), parasitic, or that have other complex ecological requirements. Thus there are all kinds of delicious and interesting species we can't grow so easily, or at all.

But I have a lot of respect for home cultivators like this guy, who go beyond the grow kit stage. It's straightforward to culture and fruit many mushroom species in a properly equipped microbiology lab. But when you're in your kitchen, making do with "gloveboxes"[1] instead of HEPA laminar flow hoods, stovetop pressure cookers instead of autoclaves, and fridges and terrariums instead of programmable incubator units, things can get really challenging.

[1] http://www.instructables.com/id/Glove-bag-for-Mushroom-Growi...

[+] Alex3917|9 years ago|reply
You actually don't need especially sterile conditions to grow oyster mushrooms. I've done this tek, it works pretty well:

https://courses.biology.washington.edu/biol440-spr16/folders...

Also the mycelium has a pleasant almond smell, so that's a nice whenever you go downstairs to check on them. The hardest part is figuring out what to tell the Petco employees when they ask what kind of cat you have.

[+] sergioisidoro|9 years ago|reply
I learned that the hard way, after going to trouble of collecting spores from a wide variety of mushrooms during autumn, and realisong after classification that they were in fact mycorrhizal.

However, I've learned, you can buy pre inoculated trees with some mycorrhizal fungi, or infect trees with parasitic fungi like the chaga mushroom [1] that has gained popularity in the biohacking community lately due the amazing concentration of anti-oxidants.

[1]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inonotus_obliquus

[+] roel_v|9 years ago|reply
But then what about mushroom farms? If everything needs to be so sterile, how do the commercial mushroom farm I've visited work? I know of one that is basically in a few stables next to other stables where cows are kept, with the sterility you' expect from the average farm; and another one inside old limestone quarries, because the temperature there is low, constant and it's moist. Not the most sterile place I've seen either - they do daily tours even! Is the sterile thing only for some species?
[+] Obi_Juan_Kenobi|9 years ago|reply
Obviously wild mushrooms aren't grown in sterile conditions, either. However, wild mushrooms have the luxury of only needing to grow in those unlikely places where conditions are just right for them to thrive. If you hope to grow a mushroom monoculture on a rich media (e.g. grains), you'll need to avoid the other fungi and bacteria that would easily out-compete your desired species.

Once the mycelia is established, it's quite robust, at least relatively speaking. Un-colonized substrate, however, will readily harbor trichoderma, cobweb mold, etc. that will spread and kill your mushrooms.

On a commercial farm, you're typically not looking at the colonization phase. If you see actual fruiting bodies, these are mushrooms at the very end of the crop cycle where contamination is no longer a risk. The initial colonization is often done on pasteurized substrate in a clean environment. Strict sterility is neither economical nor required, but effort must be made to give the desired species ideal conditions for growth. And then, contamination is a significant risk for the farmer. Once the mushrooms have been cased, exposure to fresh air is an important pinning trigger and contamination is not an issue.

[+] Synaesthesia|9 years ago|reply
It depends, what's important is that you don't want a bacterium or other organism taking over your substrate, which can happen easily especially with agar gel and nutrient rich substrates. But if the mushrooms acquire a critical mass they can actually kill bacteria. There are many techniques, some emphasizing sterility. Others use a weak peroxide solutions which kills other organisms but not fungi. And others say sterility is overrated and just grow mushrooms in big plastic bags.
[+] zupreme|9 years ago|reply
Am I the only one who noticed how he deftly handled the magic mushroom question?

To the casual eye, you'd think he denied growing them. If you read carefully though, he did not deny it.

[+] Lapsa|9 years ago|reply
I plan to someday grow and use magicshrooms although i have no prior experience with psychedelics or growing mushrooms. this topic shouldn't be that big of a deal
[+] ogurechny|9 years ago|reply
If he's in Finland, he can stock up with dried fly amanita for the whole year without any hassle. It's a different kind of magic, but worth mentioning.
[+] mikereedell|9 years ago|reply
Reminds me of when I lived in southeast PA by Kennett Square, a town with a lot of mushroom farms. I was curious as to why they were in that area. Turns out you need hay and horse urine to grow mushrooms. That area has a lot of hay farms and a lot of horse farms.

Riding a bicycle by the farms when they were changing over a grow house on a humid summer morning is an olfactory experience I won't forget.

[+] v4n4d1s|9 years ago|reply
In Switzerland you can buy mushroom-growing kits at some bigger COOP stores: http://pilzbox.ch/de/ (link is german /french only, but it has pictures)

I tried it a year ago and it was really awesome, you just have to keep the substrate moist and wait about two weeks.

[+] Alex3917|9 years ago|reply
For what it's worth, false morels are only considered edible in certain areas. E.g. in New England they're considered deadly poisonous, but they're considered a delicacy in Cincinnati. There are a lot of different species, and also possibly gene transfer across species, so it's not really clear what's going on.
[+] maxerickson|9 years ago|reply
The various species would appear in both areas though. It's too bad the edibility of Gyromitra esculenta is not clearer (I have no desire to try it), as it appears by the pound in Michigan (when I say by the pound, I mean you could pick as many pounds as you wanted). There are also the half cap and common false morels around, not quite in the same numbers.
[+] bthallplz|9 years ago|reply
Sorry, do you mean that they are considered edible or inedible in these regions due to varying conceptions of "edible", or do you mean that the false morels of some regions are poisonous while those in others are not?
[+] goldenkey|9 years ago|reply
What about the spores -- after these pseudoplastics are processed - are they totally safe in terms of air quality? Aren't some spores able to withstand immense heat/cold and very harsh conditions?
[+] andreapaiola|9 years ago|reply
I live near the best site in the world for porcini (boletus)...