[somedudethere]

I'm not saying that suicide isn't associated with mental health, but when I read this I got a vague feeling of a tautology.

If we define the components of mental illness as being suicidal, obviously that would lead you to classify all suicidals as mentally ill.

For a long time being homosexual was seen as a mental illness and those (probably most) administering treatments saw themselves as helping them and the patient would have a higher quality of life after they were cured. The doctors thought the patient was harming themselves and their family by participating in lewd activities.

Not trying to say one thing or the other about suicide. I just think it is interesting what we consider a mental illness and why and why its dangerous to go to the "mental illness" (I hate this phrasing) reasoning right away.