[rquantz]

You're maybe non familiar with qualitative research methods? A study like this can be used to discover the kinds of challenges that women face in engineering work environments. It would be a mistake to try to make quantitative claims about these results, but no one is doing that here.

[buchanaf]

I'm familiar, I just don't find the study itself to be that compelling. We have two cherry-picked journal entries. The first one we have absolutely not context, and to be honest, sounds overly dramatic: 'the guys in their group came in and within minutes had sentenced them to doing menial tasks while the guys went and had all the fun in the machine shop'. In the second instance, we have someone complaining about being an intern and not getting interesting opportunities-- how original. To be fair, I'm sure her co-workers were probably creepy and that quite frankly is unacceptable.

I guess I just don't find any of the insights in this article particular compelling or new. We do have a gender problem, but I don't think bs studies like this lend any credibility to the issue.

[sp332]

I agree with the first part of your comment, but the authors are making specific suggestions about changes to college programs.

[rquantz]

Yes, specific suggestion about qualitative changes to college curricula, based on qualitative results of a study. That seems reasonable to me. Once these changes are enacted, of course, they can be subject to quantitative study.