[the_ancient]

So you believe in order for there to be "civilization" there has to be massive institutional wide scale theft under constant threat of violence?

You do not think very much of humanity do you?

[sgift]

> You do not think very much of humanity do you?

No, I don't. And looking into a history book for five minutes reminds me why.

There is a reason that the tax system has been invented and is used basically everywhere (exceptions are failed states): Hoping to get the money needed for duties carried out by the government institutions on behalf of the state by charity does not work.

[the_ancient]

Libertarianism Is So Dangerous: https://youtu.be/NbNFJK1ZpVg

[yongjik]

Funny, when someone is ill and cannot afford medicine, I don't see a lot of libertarians saying "Why does this happen? We need a system where people don't die of preventable disease!"

I guess your notion of "thinking of humanity" is different from mine.

[the_ancient]

I image you do not speak to many libertarians then, because it is talked about alot, with a wide range of solutions.

It is ironic you feel government is the only solution to the problem, when many people both in and out of the US die waiting on government care.

[dang]

Please stop using Hacker News as an ideological platform and please stop posting flamewar-style comments to HN.

This site is not for either of those things. They rapidly take threads off topic in predictable (i.e. uninteresting) ways, and degrade the quality of conversation.

[the_ancient]

I was not aware making true statements were now "Flameware-style"

I guess Orwell was right In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.