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Virtual Box 5.1

158 points| spv | 9 years ago |virtualbox.org | reply

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[+] StevePerkins|9 years ago|reply
With Oracle's rocky reputation around open source, I'm surprised that VirutalBox is still going strong and under active development. There doesn't seem to be any kind of commercial "enterprise version" that they license for big bucks... what is their incentive for keeping this thing going?
[+] FireBeyond|9 years ago|reply
It's also made even uglier by the fact that VMware has discontinued Fusion, and Parallels (at least in the Vagrant, etc, ecosystem) has always been a second class citizen).

Not to mention that Parallels licensing is a pain. I understand license key activation as at times a necessary evil but in cases where you are developing a product for use primarily by developers who may frequently re-install their computer, could you at least do some form of trivial hardware checksumming? I had to call support because I'd exceeded five activations of my license. They reset it, after asking why. Several months later, same situation - this time they refused to reset the activation counter. Once loyal customer, no longer, when you refuse to activate software for the purchaser.

Thankfully, Docker et al seem to be making some good strides at making use of Hyve based virtualization in the OS X realm. I'm excited to see how that progresses.

[+] tobias3|9 years ago|reply
You have to buy Oracle VM VirtualBox (i.e. the enterprise version) to use the Oracle VM VirtualBox Extension Pack (USB 2.0+3.0 support) commercially.
[+] a3n|9 years ago|reply
VirtualBox is last in the alphabet. We're safe for awhile.
[+] _pmf_|9 years ago|reply
Hush. Don't give them ideas.
[+] berns|9 years ago|reply
Interesting, I searched for the "enterprise version" on shop.oracle.com. It's listed at USD 1,000 / socket.
[+] methehack|9 years ago|reply
There's some negativity around this product on this thread, but honestly I'm really glad Virtual Box is around and under active development.

I have both an active linux and os x env for dev and I use virtual box to manage and switch between. It's been super useful, very reliable, fast enough, and, btw, it's free.

[+] rpgmaker|9 years ago|reply
Do you just have a vanilla OSX VM installation or do you optimize it in some way? For me OSX is very slow on vbox on a very decently spec'ed VM. Far from my experience with Windows guests.
[+] CoolGuySteve|9 years ago|reply
I'm not sure why, but my Ubuntu image with unity always thinks it should run at 10fps. I had to hard set the frame rate in compizConfig at 60 fps to get it to run smoothly.

Putting it here because it took me quite a while to figure out why it was 3D accelerated but still so slow.

[+] cptskippy|9 years ago|reply
Any VM I provision seems to be setup by default with 1mb of video memory and 3D Acceleration off. The option to enable 2D Acceleration is greyed out.

The funny thing is that VB complains about this configuration whenever you load the console.

Have you tried increasing the video memory for the VM or enabling acceleration?

[+] Siecje|9 years ago|reply
Not sure if it is related (could be a Cinnamon problem) but when I run the Cinnamon desktop environment in a VirtualBox VM it says it is using software rendering.
[+] jeffbr13|9 years ago|reply
Changing the pointing device from default touch mode to PS/2 mouse in Machine>Settings>System fixed that for me. Seems to be the default for Ubuntu machines in recent versions.
[+] ctrlrsf|9 years ago|reply
I don't think mine ran at 10fps, but definitely felt laggy. Especially rendering Firefox.
[+] mrmondo|9 years ago|reply
Anyone tested to see if the network and disk IO is actually any faster than before? We found it _very_ slow in the past compared to VMWare Fusion on OSX.
[+] kelvin0|9 years ago|reply
"... better support for Python 3". Why does VB need to better support a specific executable, namely python 3? Anyone have more technical details on this?
[+] vetinari|9 years ago|reply
VirtualBox supports scripting using python; for that, it provides a python module. Just like any other python library, it needs to specifically support py3 syntax, or errors may happen.
[+] amelius|9 years ago|reply
After searching a bit, there seems to be a Python API for controlling Virtual Box. Perhaps that is what is meant here.
[+] christogreeff|9 years ago|reply
Has anyone done performance tests with different versions of VirtualBox? I often see entries in the changelog relating to "significantly improved performance".
[+] PaulKeeble|9 years ago|reply
I did a test for VMWare player verses Virtualbox and its no competition, VMWare is hands down a lot faster especially on anything GUI. I like what Virtualbox gives us but the performance is a problem.
[+] mrmondo|9 years ago|reply
snap, asked the same question at the same time, I've heard this many times, and many times I've found it to be slow as heck.
[+] blub|9 years ago|reply
I don't see any security-related fixes. Is VBox that solid or am I missing something? I remember also looking at previous versions and not finding much...
[+] viraptor|9 years ago|reply
"VMM: many more fixes", "GUI: various bugfixes and internal cleanup", "Audio: various bugfixes and infrastructure improvements" - who know what that means. If nobody disclosed it externally as a vulnerability, they could just call things "bugfixes".

But it's not like they don't get any security issues at all: https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=virtualbox

[+] Jare|9 years ago|reply
My understanding is that on Windows, VirtualBox still can't run along Docker For Windows, because DFW needs Hyper-V and VBox is incompatible. Is this still the case? I don't ask much of my VMs, but desktop Ubuntu guests under Hyper-V are very clunky.
[+] Ianvdl|9 years ago|reply
IIRC that is not something that VirtualBox can fix; I read somewhere that Hyper-V requires exclusive use of the virtualisation features of the hardware.

Note that this only applies to 64-bit virtualisation, you can still run Hyper-V and 32-bit VirtualBox virtual machines simultaneously.

[+] Can_Not|9 years ago|reply
Are any modern alternatives to VMWare player and Oracle VirtualBox for running a Linux guest OS (with GUI) on a Windows desktop host?