The majority of the people are completely lacking in taste the majority of the time.
Also, the majority of people have no musical training; not even a few hours tinkering with a music app to have a vague understanding of what makes a song meaningful; basic stuff like tension and resolution and song structure. This is effectively a random selection of notes within the key, and I bet "no note" will never win the vote, so there will be no interesting rhythmic variation. A simple script would work as well as these 65,000 people.
That said, there probably are interesting (though questionable in their artistic merit) ways to crowd source an artistic work. Focus groups for films and TV shows and such have been happening for a couple decades. There have been interesting surveys of popular harmonies and melodies, which could be applied to scientifically build songs that fit what is popular (and I'm sure it has been done). The uncanny valley is probably where you'd end up in most cases, though; at least for now.
Some interesting work in the area of understanding what crowds like:
"The Most Unwanted Song" is a novelty song created by artists Komar and Melamid and composer Dave Soldier in 1997. The song was designed to incorporate lyrical and musical elements that were annoying to most people. These elements included bagpipes, cowboy music, an opera singer rapping, and a children's choir that urged listeners to go shopping at Walmart.
> The song is currently in skeleton form. When performed by artists, they are at liberty to use their artistic interpretation.
That's a wise move for which the crowd didn't get to vote. Same goes for the chord structure. It's as if an individual is trying to make the crowd look good?
This would be a lot more interesting if you could "buy" pretend "shares" in each possible note and then get pretend "rewards" if your choices turned out to be correct.
Shameless plug: if you're interested in crowdsourcing, check out my subreddit AskOuija (https://reddit.com/r/AskOuija). It's a platform for linguistic collaboration at the most granular level possible: individual letters. This diffusion of authorship leads to some pretty interesting (and pretty stupid) results. Also it gave me an excuse to write a Reddit bot.
Lololol. Guess "When In Rome - The Promise" is the new Rick Roll?
The tune wad immediately recognizable, but i didnt know which song. The lyrics tho - "hmmm..na..hmm.. The right words to say" I did remember. Googled "the right words to say lyrics" and bam - the promise - perfect match.
So was original song created via wormhole travel to grab crowdsourced song from the future? Or is the crowdsound song intentionally being shaped to match? Or all one big coincidence?
I couldn't find a TOS. There was no click-through license that granted rights one way or another. So... if they get something really good, defending their copyright on the piece will be difficult?
They own the platform so.. I don't think it would be difficult. How else could it come into being without their hosting of the platform? Then again, if there were a class-action suit... perhaps, but it seems more like a task of fancy than a task of profit. Anyway, music is kinda a different ballgame thanks to ASCAP
The first time you try it, it's a mildly successful novelty. The second time you try it, 4chan causes the site to get sued by Metallica for copyright infringement.
This is why crowd sourcing for anything touching "taste" fails. Even suggestion engines fail with this (I don't like the cliche artists of the genres I listen to).
That's probably what it was intended to be. Are gimmicks bad now?
> A melody doesn't even have 65k notes
If you had followed the link, you would see it works via a vote for the next note / word in the lyrics.
> It's like having 65k people writing a text. There's no structure, leadership, direction, etc
Many, many successful things have worked without leadership or structure. I disagree, there is direction. People choose the note/word that is most appealing to them, etc.
[+] [-] SwellJoe|9 years ago|reply
Also, the majority of people have no musical training; not even a few hours tinkering with a music app to have a vague understanding of what makes a song meaningful; basic stuff like tension and resolution and song structure. This is effectively a random selection of notes within the key, and I bet "no note" will never win the vote, so there will be no interesting rhythmic variation. A simple script would work as well as these 65,000 people.
That said, there probably are interesting (though questionable in their artistic merit) ways to crowd source an artistic work. Focus groups for films and TV shows and such have been happening for a couple decades. There have been interesting surveys of popular harmonies and melodies, which could be applied to scientifically build songs that fit what is popular (and I'm sure it has been done). The uncanny valley is probably where you'd end up in most cases, though; at least for now.
Some interesting work in the area of understanding what crowds like:
http://www.hooktheory.com/blog/i-analyzed-the-chords-of-1300...
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/feb/03/science/la-sci-hit-s...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hit_Song_Science
[+] [-] cpeterso|9 years ago|reply
"The Most Unwanted Song" is a novelty song created by artists Komar and Melamid and composer Dave Soldier in 1997. The song was designed to incorporate lyrical and musical elements that were annoying to most people. These elements included bagpipes, cowboy music, an opera singer rapping, and a children's choir that urged listeners to go shopping at Walmart.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Most_Unwanted_Song
Most Unwanted Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gPuH1yeZ08
Most Wanted Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McIfIx29tSg
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That's a wise move for which the crowd didn't get to vote. Same goes for the chord structure. It's as if an individual is trying to make the crowd look good?
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The tune wad immediately recognizable, but i didnt know which song. The lyrics tho - "hmmm..na..hmm.. The right words to say" I did remember. Googled "the right words to say lyrics" and bam - the promise - perfect match.
So was original song created via wormhole travel to grab crowdsourced song from the future? Or is the crowdsound song intentionally being shaped to match? Or all one big coincidence?
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[+] [-] raverbashing|9 years ago|reply
A melody doesn't even have 65k notes
It's like having 65k people writing a text. There's no structure, leadership, direction, etc
[+] [-] fao_|9 years ago|reply
That's probably what it was intended to be. Are gimmicks bad now?
> A melody doesn't even have 65k notes
If you had followed the link, you would see it works via a vote for the next note / word in the lyrics.
> It's like having 65k people writing a text. There's no structure, leadership, direction, etc
Many, many successful things have worked without leadership or structure. I disagree, there is direction. People choose the note/word that is most appealing to them, etc.