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001sky | 9 years ago

Isn't this a straw man? These products are used in hostpitals everyday. Nobody doubts they are 'safe'in any meaningful sense. Otherwise they would need to be banned outright.

OCD people, and their kids, are a huge problem in society and should be dealt with, but this is not 'science based' public policy at all.

Its like asking someone to prove a negatve, which is absurd in many contexts. "why did something not happen" does not have a finite, knowable answer in the vast majority of contexts.

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rtkwe|9 years ago

Not a straw man at all. Effectiveness should be simple to show and for safety they're not asking for perfect proof of safety just that it doesn't cause long term effects which is done a lot with animal studies. Hundreds of products go through FDA safety testing it's not some impossible test.

Also these aren't the same soaps used in hospitals. Hospital soaps are much harsher and use different chemicals.

001sky|9 years ago

"they're not asking for perfect proof of safety just that it doesn't cause long term effects which is done a lot with animal studies"

Lets hope its just one of those shitty translations of 'real science' being lost in translation when subjected to a journalist-friendly press release.

Theres 40 years of data using humans. Nobody doubts that dial sope or other similar soaps is safe in any meaningful sense. The science in this argument is being lost.

If these were legitimate tests they would have been done years ago and there would not be the various exemptions in this policy declaration.

I will insert the caveat here that I'm not a fan of everyday use of anti-bacterials. I also don't doubt that using anti-bacterials and prbably more importantly anti-biotics and various endocrine influencing chemicals and plastics with loose regard for the environment has negative impacts on society.

I think kids should eat dirt, assuming it's clean dirt, etc. They are made to handle the stuff that nature thows at them.