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jkldotio | 9 years ago

Censorship and demonetisation on YouTube seems to be happening to people fairly regularly, and without appeal, via poorly calibrated algorithms, corporate pressure and to satisfy mobs of complaining people for various reasons. The rules seem to be vague to the point of meaninglessness and it seems even the stars of the platform who often share managers and production companies with other stars have difficulty getting in touch with YouTube to resolve issues.

I think most content producers have wised up to this and diversify their audience over multiple platforms. If you rely on the income putting all your eggs in the YouTube basket is a massive risk until they clean up their processes (there are many automated and social methods to do some of this but they seem completely uninterested in doing it).

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infinitesoup|9 years ago

> Censorship and demonetisation on YouTube seems to be happening to people fairly regularly, and without appeal, via poorly calibrated algorithms

Demonetization happens when a video doesn't meet their "advertiser-friendly" policy, but there is an appeal process where you can have a human look at it to determine if the original assessment was wrong [0]. Do you have data to support your claim that their algorithms are "poorly calibrated"?

Can you provide some examples of "censorship"? They do have policies that things like graphic content or spam is not permitted and will be removed from the site, but I think that's reasonable.

> It seems even the stars of the platform who often share managers and production companies with other stars have difficulty getting in touch with YouTube to resolve issues.

YouTube provides email support with a 1-business day response time to all creators [1], and the bigger channels get their own Partner Managers [2].

[0]: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/7083671

[1]: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/3545535?hl=en

[2]: https://www.youtube.com/yt/creators/benefit-levels.html?noap...

tramparam|9 years ago

When Pewdiepie (person on your [2] link on Silver & Up banner) complains [0] that YouTube isn't communicating enough, most people will agree that problem is at their side.

>Demonetization happens when a video doesn't meet their "advertiser-friendly" policy, but there is an appeal process where you can have a human look at it to determine if the original assessment was wrong [0]. Do you have data to support your claim that their algorithms are "poorly calibrated"?

It happens all the time when content creators are using content under fair use. Jim Sterling goes over demonetisation with ContentID [1] and latest changes [2] in his videos. I don't know if he have used that email support, but it would be fair to assume that he have tried and gave up.

[0] https://youtu.be/aQVMnW6LGfM?t=222

[1] https://youtu.be/cK8i6aMG9VM?t=62

[2] https://youtu.be/gkfQsQlI8T8?t=96

urgerestraint|9 years ago

> YouTube provides email support with a 1-business day response time to all creators [1], and the bigger channels get their own Partner Managers [2].

Multiple demonetized channels have stated that they have not received responses via the official support channels. It's all well and good stating a 1-business day response time, but if Youtube doesn't follow through that, where does that leave the content creators?

It's like businesses with support response SLAs that are cleared by the sending of a robo-email from their support system. No actual support has been rendered.

oxide|9 years ago

There is no censorship IIRC, the entire thing was overblown. (shocking, huh?)

if you put blacklisted words in your tags, description or title your video gets demonitized. It isn't censorship of content whatsoever.

Did you really think youtube bots were watching every second of monetized content looking for the f-word?

poopsintub|9 years ago

Play store has had the same issue for years, and there really isn't an alternative either. You can try to diversify, but nothing compares to the android crowd due to low, low cost devices. Google doesn't want to pay for decent support for something making them a ton of money, why would they do it for YouTube? You're stuck. Play the game and play it well.