Oct. 4

[JosephRedfern]

Looking at the source, there are two arrays of image filenames specified between script tags on that page. One is "IMAGES", which is referenced by the JS elsewhere, and specifies overlayed over the rectangle.

The other, called EXTRAS, defined but not referenced elsewhere. It contains two entries, pointing at these images: https://madeby.google.com/static/images/tenfour/extras/002.j... and https://madeby.google.com/static/images/tenfour/extras/001.j....

EDIT: oh, turns out this chap found it a while ago: https://twitter.com/hallstephenj/status/778033737040666624

[arcastroe]

Interpretations:

1. The phone will be available on T-Mobile and Verizon (Magenta/Red)

2. Camera will be good under low-light conditions without flash.

[RIMR]

Same people in this photo: https://madeby.google.com/static/images/tenfour/stills/035.j...

[halflings]

I wonder if that's Simone Giertz (the famous "mad inventor" on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3KEoMzNz8eYnwBC34RaKCQ) on the left. She mentionned on instagram that she'd be present at some Google events.

[awesomerobot]

Really good low-light quality on that selfie.

[sakri]

The phone on the ground looks like it's got rounded edges like Samsung.

[svnssn]

The phone lying on the ground must be an iPhone 3G for sure!

[thr0waway1239]

All of you are wrong. Aliens have been in touch with Google after hearing about its deep learning prowess, and their partnership announcement will be exclusively broadcast on YouTube live streaming on Oct 4th.

[JohnTHaller]

The new phones, the Pixel and Pixel XL are rumored to start at $649 for the smaller phone in the smallest memory configuration of 32gb. If true, this would mean the old Nexus line is well and truly dead and Google is taking the Apple approach to pricing. The Pixel brand is supposed to be premium at a premium price but currently has one product that fills that niche (the Pixel Chromebook) and one that doesn't (the failed Pixel C tablet that was repurposed from an abandoned Chrome OS branch to Android and launched barely functional).

[oconnor0]

I'm sad to see the Nexus line go away. I quite like my Nexus 5 but have no interest in spending over 600$ on a phone.

[mkozlows]

That is not an accurate description of the Pixel C. It's an excellent Android tablet. That some reviewers don't want Android tablets is a separate issue.

[blinkingled]

I doubt many people will buy a $649 phone with run of the mill specs and only 18 months of updates even if it was made by Google (whatever that means).

Google might not remember but nobody bought the Chromebook Pixel or the Pixel C.

[hocuspocus]

> If true, this would mean the old Nexus line is well and truly dead and Google is taking the Apple approach to pricing.

What old Nexus line are you talking about?

Most[1] Nexus phones have been priced high at launch with fairly average specs, if not disappointing.

I believe the 6P is the one truly high-end Nexus, and then there's the 5X that was grossly overpriced everywhere but in the US, and finally the Nexus 4 and 5 which were very good deals from the get-go.

[1] Nexus One, Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 6

[JustUhThought]

I want... 1) a thicker phone, so I can grab it without the grip feeling precarious, and because it has a super-sized battery that easily lasts ll day and all night. 2) 2 cameras, yes, but specifically for depth perception, because omg all the amazing programs I could write! 3) waterproof, cause I like pulling my phone out in the rain and I'm a klutz.

[dman]

Yep on phones and laptops both the thinness trend has gone too far. Battery life and thermals both suffer because of this. Would prefer a slight correction towards thicker phones / laptops that run longer and cooler.

[ashark]

> 1) a thicker phone, so I can grab it without the grip feeling precarious, and because it has a super-sized battery that easily lasts ll day and all night.

I'm dreading the day my lame-o iPhone 5c with a slowly-dying screen becomes unusable, because it can go over 3 days without a charge provided I don't use the GPS. If I charge it at work Friday it'll usually still have ~40% charge Monday morning, having been unplugged all weekend. I barely even think about the battery level.

Sign me up for thicker phones with a bigger battery. And no stupid, ugly, scratch-attracting camera bump on the back.

[sigmar]

2 cameras aren't enough for an accurate depth map though, right? I thought you need infrared.

[simonebrunozzi]

It's almost off-topic, but for people that grew up in my town (Assisi), including me of course, October 4th will always be St.Francis' day.

[JshWright]

October 4th is many things...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_4

[nxzero]

The release date 10-4 is radio code for "understood":

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten-code

[benmcnelly]

OKAY, so I get that they are promoting (probably) the camera/photos but with the photos filling the whole device, it almost makes you wonder if they are doing full color custom high DPI printed back covers (which would be good, since its so ugly if leaked pics are correct).

Or maybe they are going to be the first with a full slab of glass on the front with seamless edge to edge display (hah yeah right) - if its not either of those things, they just set people up for massive disappointment.

[naringas]

I get an HTTP 404 not found

>The requested URL /fourten was not found on this server. That’s all we know.

[naringas]

Unless I open the url with chrome.

WELCOME TO THE FUTURE OF THE OPEN INTERNET /s

[MichaelGG]

Are you in the US? Google has this terrible system where they "geo IP" then return nonsensical results.

Travel with an Android phone, and watch the Play Store go bilingual, mostly in English, with random parts showing up in e.g. Spanish.

[naringas]

I got that 404 several times with firefox and none with chrome.

The redirect to madeby.google.com works now, I wonder what happened...

[calgoo]

I still get the 404... However, is there a typo in the title or did they do it on purpose?

<title>Error 404 (Not Found)!!1</title>

[flannell]

My guess? a smart phone that has machine vision built in? ten four? sounds like tensor flow - machine learning.

Interesting how the search box grew to include images...

[dragonwriter]

> ten four? sounds like tensor flow - machine learning.

Sounds a lot more like "10-4"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten-code

[chki]

Like the already available App "Goggles" built right into the OS...might be possible. It is quite amazing what Goggles achieves actually (recognises places and things with very high certainty (aka reverse image search but nonetheless..))

[maxerickson]

Like Tango?

http://get.google.com/tango/

[publicfig]

Ten Four = 10/4 = October 4th = The date of the announcement

[yincrash]

Will it have a headphone jack?

[DigitalJack]

That made me chuckle. Who would have thought having a headphone jack would be a defining feature?

[js8]

Will it have a real, physical keyboard?

That's why I bought the first Google phone and I still use it.

[apatters]

I'm not sure if it's available in the US, but I bought a Samsung Galaxy A5 in Thailand for about $220 and with the level of quality it offers for such a low price, I have a very hard time understanding why anyone would pay 3-5x that for a "premium" phone: http://www.trustedreviews.com/samsung-galaxy-a5-review

[forumninja]

It says 5 Oct. in Australia

[WhitneyLand]

If you were leading the Pixel phone effort what would you choose as the top three market differentiators?

To start one small thing I'd do is match Apple on the length of update support window.

[kalleboo]

> To start one small thing I'd do is match Apple on the length of update support window.

That will win you over the tech-fanboys, but is that anything normal people take into account when they pick a phone? I probably hear more complaints about new versions of iOS "making my phone worse" than Android users complaining about not getting updates.

[whamlastxmas]

Hardware encryption support like the iPhone has so I can securely use a PIN instead of text password.

SD card slot

Extensions for Chrome browser on Android

[daveloyall]

My money is on:

+ something like PTT (push to talk) for video. Like Google Duo but with whatever high-level OS/hardware changes were required to make it work well.

+ edge-to-edge screen (thanks benmcnelly)

Why? Look at these people in the photos... They are hip (AF) and they are on scooters. They are mobile and care about appearances...

[animex]

Not looking forward to the new rumored price tag ($649+). Might have to go back to OnePlus then.

[metafunctor]

Is this about the Daydream VR headset?

http://uploadvr.com/report-googles-daydream-vr-headset-calle...

[reustle]

Whatever it is, judging by the source code, it seems to be called "TenFour". This redirects, too http://google.com/tenfour

[stable-point]

Or TenFour refers to the announcement date: 10/4.

[OJFord]

My first though was "that's just 4 October; I expect all URIs redirect".

But they don't all redirect, so that is interesting (and presumably why that date).

EDIT: `/tenfour` doesn't redirect either..?

Though, to be fair, the `IMAGES` array has everything stored under 'tenfour' directory, still, I imagine it's just a code name for the project, given the release/announce date.

[jshawl]

Uses angular 1.5.7

[cvsv]

POU5F1