[nxzero]

Here's Moxie's related press release on doing E2E for Allo: https://whispersystems.org/blog/allo/

Curious if he'll comment on what happened:

https://twitter.com/moxie

https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=moxie

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If you don't know about Moxie, highly suggest learning more about him:

https://thoughtcrime.org/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoughtcrime

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moxie_Marlinspike

[eps]

The best new friend of Facebook Moxie?

His "trust us, we checked FB Messenger code and it's all good" pitch made for a very entertaining read.

[hydragit]

Yes, moxie "knows it all" wants to control his apps so much he doesn't want them to be on f-droid https://f-droid.org/posts/security-notice-textsecure/

[nxzero]

Aware of that issue (asked moxie about it on HN) and other issues too, but it doesn't change that there's zero reason to believe Moxie's intent is malicious and it's a stretch by any means to claim his contributions are anything but positive in sum.