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So if this is "programming for humans", all of us are just writing in some alien language because we're aliens?

When did it become fashionable to call everybody else some variant of insane or delusioned and tout your own solution?

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Sorry, we're not trying to call you an alien, quite the contrary! We appreciate that you are a human, and we feel a lot of our tools aren't designed for people like you and me. Our argument is that even our best tools today are built with constraints imposed by the earliest computers (isolated, single core). We've moved past these limitations technically, but our ability to program to the best of our ability on these new, more capable machines (connected, multi-core) is hamstrung by restrictions still imposed by even the newest languages. Look at Swift, a brand new language that can only offer time-travel debugging in a special playground context.

What we're saying is that it's time to move past writing code for the consumption of the machine. If we want the power of computing (not necessarily programming as it exists today) to be more collaborative, and more inclusive; and to reach a wider, more diverse audience, then our tools need to start being designed for humans. Right now Eve is focusing on a table of contents, readable and relevant error messages, and clean, consistent, simple semantics. It's a modest start, but that's where we are. :)

So again, I'm very sorry we offended you, and I hope this explanation helps make our view clearer.

oldmanjay|9 years ago

The vitriol you're bringing to this thread is far beyond what I'd expect considering the topic. What has angered you so greatly?

Touche|9 years ago

I agree and hate the "for humans" meme. It's insulting and doesn't help your case.

ljw1001|9 years ago

I think "for humans" is just intended to convey that the language and environment are based on research into human cognitive traits: how we think and learn.

cocktailpeanuts|9 years ago

"for humans" doesn't imply that the rest are insane or delusional. It's the same context as "Wow Usain Bolt is not human".