I think people always are easily obsessed and get attached to things they touch. Those things becomes extensions of themselves. I am that way about my smart phone, keyboard and headphones. I could replace the monitor tomorrow without thinking twice about it. Get a new hard drive, new router, even a new a new laptop because I don't touch but use an external keyboard.
But, as soon as my IBM Model M keyboard stopped working last month, it really bothered me (it was my fault for spilling coffee on it). So I got my backup Cherry MX Blue keyboard from Rosewill (also a nice mechanical keyboard for only $60 or so) and then proceeded to take apart my IBM keyboard in the evenings, to see how it works and fix it. I just got a new membrane for it and am doing what's called a "bolt mod" replace plastic rivets in it with bolts.
It is completely irrational spending all this time on it, but it am really attached to that particular keyboard.
> It is completely irrational spending all this time on it, but it am really attached to that particular keyboard.
Nostalgia and/or emotional attachment aside, I think you can actually rationalize repairing it:
① Knowledge and skills. Repairing stuff increases your understanding of the things you use on a daily basis.
② Emotional reward. Successfully repairing something is simply satisfying.
③ Environmentalism. You manage to keep one more product functioning instead of consigning it to a landfill.
I am willing to bet that the time you sink into this project is mostly your down-time. If you weren't doing this, you might be watching Netflix, or playing a game, or reading a book — it is not lost time.
Not irrational at all. I've gone through countless newer keyboards, both insanely expensive mechanical gaming and business, yet none feels as "right" as the M. I got it new for a pittance in the 90s.
It may weigh almost as much as me, and look a little grubby, but it seems destined to remain in mint condition forever. If it had a few media keys it'd be perfect.
Keyboards and trackpoints are why I stuck with Thinkpads for years, and despite owning several always hated Macbook keyboards and touchpads. It's also why I was deeply offended when Lenovo replaced the 7 row keyboard with the compromised 6. When I spent a lot of time on iMacs I had a mechanical that was similar to the old extended keyboard (though not as reliable).
So no, as the main interface to a machine, having a good keyboard with adequate travel is hugely important, and not the least bit irrational.
I regret getting rid of two Model M's several years ago because I didn't know about the bolt mod. It's not irrational to spend a lot of time maintaining a tool that helps you make money. I'll hold on to my current M forever, if it'll last.
I used the Cherry MX blues for quite a while, the 3000's series are exceptional value for money.
Sadly I had to switch to an Ergo 4000 at home and work due to postural issues and while it is a lovely keyboard and works well I miss the clicky-clack (even used https://github.com/skkeeper/linux-clicky for a while) :)
I fully understand what you mean about getting attached to technology though, I feel like that about my franken-desktop and my old(ish) Vostro laptop which I nurse a long, it's dented, battered and scratched but it's mine.
Agree. I'm looking to spend a surprisingly large amount of money on doubleshot PBT keycaps, because I'm frustrated by the lack of durability that any other type has. Can't finds sets for much below $50, for what amounts to some plastic.
I don't know or care if mechanical keyboards increase my typing speed and/or precision, but they feel great and make me enjoy work more. If I can choose between a rocky desk and a sturdy one, I'll choose the latter, although they both do the job sufficiently well for my needs.
A few months ago I got myself a tenkeyless with brown Cherry MX switches, and I am getting a second one now, because I can't be bothered to type on a rubber dome at home anymore. I might even paint this one and install PBT keys and O-rings, which only shows that I'm enjoying these things enough to develop a full blown fetish.
I also agree that the MacBook keyboards were pretty great before the retina ones were introduced, and they seem to get worse (flatter) with every revision. I now prefer the current Lenovo chiclets over the current Apple ones.
The Apple Trackpad still rocks my socks off, though.
If they only were as much available to buy as much people talk about them. I never used it before, I tried, I loved it, I researched a lot, I've finally chosen one ... and only got disappointed by availability. They're nowhere to be in stock. I found it only on Amazon UK and they want almost the same as keyboard price for a shipping. And no, it's not some bizarre custom made thing - it is just a normal Ducky One TKL. I got the feeling that market was pretty small on them, then people started to talk, hype risen, and now we have more requests then offers.
As a programmer I am disappointed with the lack of innovation in mechanical keyboards. They all look the same and have extremely similar layouts.
What I could really use is some navigation keys to the left of the keyboard; maybe two columns of keys that are programmable; any innovation actually would be nice.
I have about 5 mechanical keyboards (WASD, Duckys, DAS, ...) and yet if I want to type fast, I use an apple keyboard. The short travel distance of those keys really work for me.
I've been waiting for switches that are somewhere in between, mechanical but thin travel. I've looked at some really esoteric and rare keyboards as well but I wouldn't fork $220 for a keyboard...
Anyways I totally understand his view though. I can't believe the latest keyboards on the macbooks. I couldn't stand them for 10 mins at the apple store trying to surf. My 2008 Mac book pro keyboard was the best thing on earth. I found it better than my older thinkpad (I know, hot topic).
And I bloody hope that they don't mess up the external keyboard in that fashion, or I will go out and buy 10 and stash them for the future. That's the only down side of the apple keyboard, they last a year at most, after which the switches get mushy.
This is some amazing writing. I couldn't care less about what kind of keyboard I use, but I kept reading and reading because this was just so easy to read.
Can anybody explain why what made this such a good read? Or point me in a direction where I can improve my own writing?
I guess I'll be the contrarian today, but honestly I found his writing to be needlessly long and meandering.
I felt I already knew what he was going to say (based on the title alone), but it took dozens of paragraphs to get to the meat of it. The history with previous Apple devices didn't seem all that necessary to get to the real point at the end.
I agree completely - his writing is a joy to read.
At the bottom of the article it says he "writes about sports, particularly baseball". Baseball, more than other sports, seems to generate great writing. I don't know if there's something writerly about the sport itself or if it's just a coincidence, but there seems to be a correlation.
I like the font (I think it's Palanquin) and I like the line spacing and I like the line width--its just very easy to read, but most of all I like the writing.
IMO the keyboard is the software engineer's most important tool. I feel most at home on a Chromebook keyboard (ctrl and alt keys on both sides with no win or cmd keys), but I can't find a good external Chromebook keyboard. Even if I could find one, it probably wouldn't be mechanical or wireless (two more keyboard features I love). I'm with Joe, today's keyboards make me sad.
To me the Chromebook keyboard layout is a key feature. I thought the absence of a delete key would be a problem, this has not proven to be the case. The simplicity is a joy.
A keyboard that you might want to try is the Logitech K810. I accidentally bought the Apple keyed 811 variant and have decided to go for the PC variant as I have done so well with the 811 version. You can also get a case for it and nowadays that is what I travel with, leaving the laptop behind. I can use the Logitech keyboard on all devices that matter, swapping between desktop, phone and laptop with a simple keypress.
I also balance this keyboard over the keyboard on my laptop, it somehow doesn't affect the keys below and offers a better typing experience. The keystroke illumination is better than on the Chromebook Pixel, as is the keystroke mechanism feel, and I did have the Chromebook Pixel keyboard down as best in any laptop. For these reasons I am doubling down on the portable Logitech keyboard.
Another idea: maybe go for retro cool keyboards. For instance an SGI keyboard from back in the day. This is a totally standard keyboard without any Windows keys:
My all time favorite keyboard is my apple //e. Last time I was home visiting my parents, they mentioned it was in the basement. Went down and typed a few things just for the feel. Still my favorite.
Modern mechanicals don't compare in the slightest.
That said, I vastly prefer my MacBook Pro keyboard to modern mechanicals. It's last years model. Never tried a MacBook that I recall, so I have no opinion there.
But my last MacBook Pro was great for me for 5 years, and I plan on hanging on to this one for a while.
I use a 60% Vortex Pok3r with Cherry MX Clears and it perfectly fits my needs. Looks wonderful in my setup, feels very good, and I enjoy typing. Working in vim is definitely an advantage, though.
I find it a bit ironic that after complaining that Apple keyboards have lost all of their "sound" and "force", he goes out and buys a keyboard with Cherry MX Red switches, which have no tactility, no feedback, and very low actuation force.
You have a point, but it would be rather jarring to go straight from the light touch of a scissor/butterfly switch to the rigidity of an MX Green or a buckling spring. MX Reds and Browns can be a happy compromise.
I'm just grateful pc gamers' realization of the benefits of proper key mechanisms has led to more production when it seemed like mechanical keyboards were only marketed in the enterprise. There was a time when flat rubber keyboards were all the hype.
I get the obsession this guy has with keyboards. It may be a pretentious luxury problem, but if we didn't have those, we'd have a problem...
But I don't get the 5000-word Apple-rant of an introduction. It's not that he's found a notebook with an excellent mechanical keyboard – it's just an external one. Now if you need a keyboard that probably costs 200$, and is actually thicker than most notebooks of any kind, and you have to attach it to /some/ computer anyway, then Apple just doesn't seem part of the equation.
Keyboard enthusiasts should be singing Apple's praises right now. Not because their new keyboards are great (haven't tried) but they've put it on the agenda in the first place. Just like the retina Macbook made everyone scramble for high-dpi displays (now followed by wide-gamut displays).
Not all mechanical keyboards are loud. Some people like an audible click with each key, and so will buy a keyboard with a switch like the Cherry MX Blue[1]. Some don't, or work around other people and are considerate, and choose a Cherry Red or Brown, or equivalent from other manufacturers. (Red has a very linear feel, while brown has a sort of a 'bump' when it activates, similar to the ones that click, but not as extreme and without the noise.) These don't make much sound at all, unless you hit the key hard enough that the actual plastic key cap bottoms out. That can easily be solved though, either by typing more gently and not bottoming out (which will allow you to type faster and with less stress on your fingers) or by putting O-Ring dampeners around the keys[2].
I use a Leopold FC750R with brown mx cherry switches[0] at work. It uses a sound dampening pad and is no louder than a regular membrane keyboard. My coworkers were hesitant about me using a mech at the office when I first got hired but now have no complaints after realizing not all switches and keyboards sound like a type writer. Btw I absolutely love that keyboard and Leopolds in general, I have 3 of them... Bottom line is some mech keyboards are extremely loud, especially if you bottom out on every key press, but there are many options for noise reduction; use brown switches, use a keyboard with a dampening pad, install o-rings on each switch, don't bottom out.
I haven't had any complaints from my fellow coworkers in the past six years I've been working at The Company (I brought in a True-Blue IBM Modem M keyboard to work (six years ago, still using the same one)---I have about half a dozen in storage just in case). Sturdy construction and they keep on working.
I love mechanical keyboards... similar reasons the author of hte article posted. But I'm OK with the new MacBook keys too -- time and a place for everything, right?
I do appreciate a thin laptop, but when I sit down at my desktop I love having a "real" keyboard tactile feel, as well as a high DPI mouse.
Razer makes great keyboards and mice. Here's what I use.
All the little macro buttons come in handy for various applications too. For example, I use one to type my email address, one to type my phone number -- same as I use shortcuts on my phone (on my phone I type @@ and have my full email show up instead).
I like the silent Razer keyboard, I had a clicky one before, since I often have to type while on the phone or Google Hangouts and having a non-clicky keyboard is just the conscientious thing to do...
Only thing I would like to change: Razer used to have their "professional" series (we're talking like 10 years ago), and instead of being all black and green, they were white and blue... Whatever, at the end of the day if someone wants to talk with me about Fallout or League of Legends I guess it's not a terrible thing... but I do like not advertising "gamer" in a work setting.
I just wish somebody made an MS natural keyboard with mechanical keys and an extra 25 or so programmable function keys (row above normal fn keys, double row of 5 vertical keys to the left of caps/shift/...)
Bought an imac in 2011 and the keyboard that came with it was amazing. I could type like the wind, but unfortunately it was wireless. Within the last year, it started glitching so I started looking for a new one... I wanted a wired one so that I wouldn't have to keep changing the damn batteries. I couldn't find the same version wired, so I took the dive and paid 100 some for a mechanical keyboard. I have cherry brown switches, with backlighting now. It's ok, but I can't type as fast anymore.
there's a really cheap and good mechanical keyboard that's manufactured in India - the TVS E Gold at around 30$. IMHO its the cheapest mechanical keyboard that has the Cherry MX blue keys.
It's a bit odd to compare the MacBook Pro's keyboard to a mechanical keyboard. I mean, mechanical keyboards are great, but laptops with mechanical keyboards are almost nonexistent due to the extreme bulk required. Sure, there are many laptops with far more key travel than Apple's latest offerings, but it's not fair to hold them up to that standard...
He's not. The author is comparing the new MBP keyboard to the old one. The fact that he finds these keyboards so terrible meant that he realised how much he'd love a mechanical keyboard.
It also means that he won't be buying a new Macbook Pro.
It's the total opposite for me. I used mechanical keyboards for over a decade but I'm just much faster and accurate on modern non-technical keyboards. Every now and again I get the nostalgia and hookup one of the many mechanical keyboards I've collected over the years. After about an hour of nostalgia back into a box it goes.
I learned to hunt and peck at a very young age in the 1950s on a mechanical portable typewriter, and have always felt more comfortable with keyboards which have good travel, positive feedback, and loud audible clicking.
To this day I never learned touch typing, and doubt I could. I can't learn foreign languages either. I have a reputation for being the fastest 2-finger hunt and peck typist anyone has ever seen, but I must say a clicky keyboard like the model M makes your apparent speed sound twice as fast as it actually is due to the click on release. A mechanical typewriter doesn't have that.
I am 100% sure My macbook pro keyboard is really damaging my fingers/joints. I stopped coding all day on my macbook because my hands really started to hurt very badly, suffering some sort of RSI.
Then I decided to start coding on my Cooler Master mechanical keyboard to see wether that would give some relieve. Within 2 weeks the pain was completely gone! I now only use my mac keyboard for short messages like this.
I think it's really sad when aesthetics rule over ergonomics, and with the new mac books it only seems to get worse.. Especially the escape key on the oled bar, what idiot made that decision?
I've been using Macs for less than most of you - only 3 years.
However, in that time I have become used to the keyboard shortcuts that come with OSX - CMD + Q for closing _any_ program, copy/paste/cut/etc all using CMD vs CTRL. These have turned out to be _much_ better than what's offered on Windows.
The few times I've grown curious again to try Windows 10, the keyboard shortcuts are absolutely the main reason I jump back to OSX. The terminal can be emulated, there's usually programs on Windows that match what I use on OSX, but the shortcuts, I have been unable to figure that out.
[+] [-] rdtsc|9 years ago|reply
But, as soon as my IBM Model M keyboard stopped working last month, it really bothered me (it was my fault for spilling coffee on it). So I got my backup Cherry MX Blue keyboard from Rosewill (also a nice mechanical keyboard for only $60 or so) and then proceeded to take apart my IBM keyboard in the evenings, to see how it works and fix it. I just got a new membrane for it and am doing what's called a "bolt mod" replace plastic rivets in it with bolts.
It is completely irrational spending all this time on it, but it am really attached to that particular keyboard.
[+] [-] Freak_NL|9 years ago|reply
Nostalgia and/or emotional attachment aside, I think you can actually rationalize repairing it:
① Knowledge and skills. Repairing stuff increases your understanding of the things you use on a daily basis.
② Emotional reward. Successfully repairing something is simply satisfying.
③ Environmentalism. You manage to keep one more product functioning instead of consigning it to a landfill.
I am willing to bet that the time you sink into this project is mostly your down-time. If you weren't doing this, you might be watching Netflix, or playing a game, or reading a book — it is not lost time.
[+] [-] anexprogrammer|9 years ago|reply
It may weigh almost as much as me, and look a little grubby, but it seems destined to remain in mint condition forever. If it had a few media keys it'd be perfect.
Keyboards and trackpoints are why I stuck with Thinkpads for years, and despite owning several always hated Macbook keyboards and touchpads. It's also why I was deeply offended when Lenovo replaced the 7 row keyboard with the compromised 6. When I spent a lot of time on iMacs I had a mechanical that was similar to the old extended keyboard (though not as reliable).
So no, as the main interface to a machine, having a good keyboard with adequate travel is hugely important, and not the least bit irrational.
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[+] [-] noir_lord|9 years ago|reply
Sadly I had to switch to an Ergo 4000 at home and work due to postural issues and while it is a lovely keyboard and works well I miss the clicky-clack (even used https://github.com/skkeeper/linux-clicky for a while) :)
I fully understand what you mean about getting attached to technology though, I feel like that about my franken-desktop and my old(ish) Vostro laptop which I nurse a long, it's dented, battered and scratched but it's mine.
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A few months ago I got myself a tenkeyless with brown Cherry MX switches, and I am getting a second one now, because I can't be bothered to type on a rubber dome at home anymore. I might even paint this one and install PBT keys and O-rings, which only shows that I'm enjoying these things enough to develop a full blown fetish.
I also agree that the MacBook keyboards were pretty great before the retina ones were introduced, and they seem to get worse (flatter) with every revision. I now prefer the current Lenovo chiclets over the current Apple ones.
The Apple Trackpad still rocks my socks off, though.
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[+] [-] sixothree|9 years ago|reply
What I could really use is some navigation keys to the left of the keyboard; maybe two columns of keys that are programmable; any innovation actually would be nice.
[+] [-] keyle|9 years ago|reply
I've been waiting for switches that are somewhere in between, mechanical but thin travel. I've looked at some really esoteric and rare keyboards as well but I wouldn't fork $220 for a keyboard...
Anyways I totally understand his view though. I can't believe the latest keyboards on the macbooks. I couldn't stand them for 10 mins at the apple store trying to surf. My 2008 Mac book pro keyboard was the best thing on earth. I found it better than my older thinkpad (I know, hot topic).
And I bloody hope that they don't mess up the external keyboard in that fashion, or I will go out and buy 10 and stash them for the future. That's the only down side of the apple keyboard, they last a year at most, after which the switches get mushy.
[+] [-] Void_|9 years ago|reply
Can anybody explain why what made this such a good read? Or point me in a direction where I can improve my own writing?
[+] [-] SquareWheel|9 years ago|reply
I felt I already knew what he was going to say (based on the title alone), but it took dozens of paragraphs to get to the meat of it. The history with previous Apple devices didn't seem all that necessary to get to the real point at the end.
Maybe I'm just more impatient as a reader?
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[+] [-] gf263|9 years ago|reply
The author explains why we get drawn into good writing about topics we don't care about. Has some great examples in it too.
[+] [-] criddell|9 years ago|reply
At the bottom of the article it says he "writes about sports, particularly baseball". Baseball, more than other sports, seems to generate great writing. I don't know if there's something writerly about the sport itself or if it's just a coincidence, but there seems to be a correlation.
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[+] [-] renke1|9 years ago|reply
[1] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00F3U4TQS/
[+] [-] Theodores|9 years ago|reply
A keyboard that you might want to try is the Logitech K810. I accidentally bought the Apple keyed 811 variant and have decided to go for the PC variant as I have done so well with the 811 version. You can also get a case for it and nowadays that is what I travel with, leaving the laptop behind. I can use the Logitech keyboard on all devices that matter, swapping between desktop, phone and laptop with a simple keypress.
http://www.logitech.com/en-gb/product/bluetooth-illuminated-...
I also balance this keyboard over the keyboard on my laptop, it somehow doesn't affect the keys below and offers a better typing experience. The keystroke illumination is better than on the Chromebook Pixel, as is the keystroke mechanism feel, and I did have the Chromebook Pixel keyboard down as best in any laptop. For these reasons I am doubling down on the portable Logitech keyboard.
Another idea: maybe go for retro cool keyboards. For instance an SGI keyboard from back in the day. This is a totally standard keyboard without any Windows keys:
https://deskthority.net/wiki/SGI_Bigfoot_series
[+] [-] DigitalJack|9 years ago|reply
Modern mechanicals don't compare in the slightest.
That said, I vastly prefer my MacBook Pro keyboard to modern mechanicals. It's last years model. Never tried a MacBook that I recall, so I have no opinion there.
But my last MacBook Pro was great for me for 5 years, and I plan on hanging on to this one for a while.
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It means you picked up Apple in the 2000s, but you can't keep up anymore. It might just be that Apple is moving forward, you are not.
Just as a hypothesis. Time will show.
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[+] [-] matt4077|9 years ago|reply
But I don't get the 5000-word Apple-rant of an introduction. It's not that he's found a notebook with an excellent mechanical keyboard – it's just an external one. Now if you need a keyboard that probably costs 200$, and is actually thicker than most notebooks of any kind, and you have to attach it to /some/ computer anyway, then Apple just doesn't seem part of the equation.
Keyboard enthusiasts should be singing Apple's praises right now. Not because their new keyboards are great (haven't tried) but they've put it on the agenda in the first place. Just like the retina Macbook made everyone scramble for high-dpi displays (now followed by wide-gamut displays).
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[1] http://www.pcworld.com/article/242037/mechanical_keyboard_fa... [2] http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/keyboard-acc...
[+] [-] bballer|9 years ago|reply
[0] https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_det...
[+] [-] spc476|9 years ago|reply
More important---no Carpal Tunnel Syndrome.
[+] [-] dbg31415|9 years ago|reply
I do appreciate a thin laptop, but when I sit down at my desktop I love having a "real" keyboard tactile feel, as well as a high DPI mouse.
Razer makes great keyboards and mice. Here's what I use.
* Razer BlackWidow Chroma - Buy Gaming Grade Keyboards - Official Razer Online Store (United States) || http://www.razerzone.com/store/razer-blackwidow-chroma
* Razer Taipan - Buy Gaming Grade Mice - Official Razer Online Store (United States) || http://www.razerzone.com/store/razer-taipan
All the little macro buttons come in handy for various applications too. For example, I use one to type my email address, one to type my phone number -- same as I use shortcuts on my phone (on my phone I type @@ and have my full email show up instead).
I like the silent Razer keyboard, I had a clicky one before, since I often have to type while on the phone or Google Hangouts and having a non-clicky keyboard is just the conscientious thing to do...
Only thing I would like to change: Razer used to have their "professional" series (we're talking like 10 years ago), and instead of being all black and green, they were white and blue... Whatever, at the end of the day if someone wants to talk with me about Fallout or League of Legends I guess it's not a terrible thing... but I do like not advertising "gamer" in a work setting.
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[+] [-] mamcx|9 years ago|reply
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/59r6wg...
However, MS update the line:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/accessories/surface-...
Is sad is not mech.
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[+] [-] sandGorgon|9 years ago|reply
http://candytech.in/review-tvs-e-bharat-gold-cheapest-mechan...
really recommend you pick one up if you can.
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[+] [-] Bromlife|9 years ago|reply
It also means that he won't be buying a new Macbook Pro.
[+] [-] matthewking|9 years ago|reply
Here's some hope for the future: http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-systems/razer-blade-pro
It's big, but because of the screen rather than the keyboard.
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[+] [-] alexellisuk|9 years ago|reply
http://blog.alexellis.io/mechanical-keyboards/
I can't imagine having to type on mushy membrane keyboards again.
[+] [-] fnj|9 years ago|reply
To this day I never learned touch typing, and doubt I could. I can't learn foreign languages either. I have a reputation for being the fastest 2-finger hunt and peck typist anyone has ever seen, but I must say a clicky keyboard like the model M makes your apparent speed sound twice as fast as it actually is due to the click on release. A mechanical typewriter doesn't have that.
[+] [-] thght|9 years ago|reply
Then I decided to start coding on my Cooler Master mechanical keyboard to see wether that would give some relieve. Within 2 weeks the pain was completely gone! I now only use my mac keyboard for short messages like this.
I think it's really sad when aesthetics rule over ergonomics, and with the new mac books it only seems to get worse.. Especially the escape key on the oled bar, what idiot made that decision?
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[+] [-] jtreminio|9 years ago|reply
However, in that time I have become used to the keyboard shortcuts that come with OSX - CMD + Q for closing _any_ program, copy/paste/cut/etc all using CMD vs CTRL. These have turned out to be _much_ better than what's offered on Windows.
The few times I've grown curious again to try Windows 10, the keyboard shortcuts are absolutely the main reason I jump back to OSX. The terminal can be emulated, there's usually programs on Windows that match what I use on OSX, but the shortcuts, I have been unable to figure that out.
Any tips?