[ufukbay]

I couldn't agree more. Especially this part really makes me smash my head against the wall:

"Instead of 16GB of RAM as found on the Apple, I configured with 32GB (you can go up to 64GB if needed). By default, it comes with a 6GB Nvidia GTX 1060. The price? Less than $2,000! In other words, the System76 machine with much better specs is less expensive than Apple's."

I'm not an Apple fanboy but since the company I work for provides us with any hardware we want, most of us use Macbook Pros. The thing is, sure, it might have 16GB more RAM but it looks like a huge black brick. I'm not even going to start talking more about design but how can you even compare 2.49kg weight to 1.83kg of the Macbook Pro?

[kagamine]

My ZBook is over 5kg, my car doesn't seem to mind.

My point, weight unknown, is that Apple are so focussed on thinness they have forgotten that I have "legacy" hardware lying around, still in use. I refuse to spend $ on replacing working external drives, usb sticks and more (home studio sound card for example) simply because some company has decided I need "to get with the times".

Apple want a consumer market in which users consume, consume, consume like tech is a loaf of bread. I'm not buying into that.

[ufukbay]

I understand your point of view but I think it depends highly on your individual use case. I also drive to work by car but I carry around my MBP a lot at work. We have lots of workshops, hackathons or code reviews where it makes a huge difference that you don't have to carry around much.

[esistgut]

> Apple want a consumer market in which users consume, consume, consume like tech is a loaf of bread. I'm not buying into that.

On a side note: soon the second hand market will be flooded with perfectly working and underpriced "legacy" hardware.