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Abandoned in space in 1967, a US satellite has started transmitting again

248 points| Cozumel | 9 years ago |thevintagenews.com | reply

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[+] samuell|9 years ago|reply
> "This proves electronics built around 50 years ago, 12 years before Voyager 1, and far before microprocessors and integrated circuits are still capable of working in the hostile environs of space."

I think in some aspect, it might be even more so (robust), than today's technology: Simpler, more to-the-point technology, leading to greater robustness.

I think today's tech and IT industry has something to learn there, and I'm really happy about the "back to basics" trend in IT, going back to compiled, to-the-point languages like Go, closer-to-the hardware cloud systems etc.

[+] pjc50|9 years ago|reply
Recently I've been working my way through the PPrune megathread on Concorde: http://www.pprune.org/tech-log/423988-concorde-question-77.h... , in which (somewhere) is a discussion of the control systems. Analog fly-by-wire! A complex set of "synchro" and "resolver" systems connected to op-amps, giving it autostabilisation and autothrottle all the way up to Mach 2. The pilots would just push the throttles full open on the runway and leave them there until it was time to come down.
[+] Someone|9 years ago|reply
I think the main lesson would be that making your transistors and switching currents enormously large is good for longevity in space, but that's nothing new.
[+] sorokod|9 years ago|reply
Um... isn't this indicator of further decay of the system? Like a cadaver that fills up with gas and starts emitting sounds.
[+] friendzis|9 years ago|reply
One thing about tech in hostile environments is resilience to radiation, which is more or less proportional to number of electrons in junction. With smaller fabrication process we win lower energy consumption and much better integration, but at a cost of radiation resilience.
[+] kalleboo|9 years ago|reply
Unlike this one that never worked properly, two other satellites launched in the same series, LES-8 and LES-9 are still functioning as designed. They were powered by RTGs (radioisotope thermoelectric generator) rather than batteries/solar though.
[+] oxide|9 years ago|reply
I wonder what kind of lifespan they were expecting out of this thing back when it was launched.

I'd think you'd want a decent return in terms of longevity, considering the size and (I would assume) weight of it.

I'd bet modern satellites are much more disposable by comparison.

[+] vasaulys|9 years ago|reply
There's a certain level of intuition that one can grasp with hardware as opposed to software. I suspect this might contribute to most robustness in design.
[+] mc32|9 years ago|reply
Didn't they used to build navigation systems using analog components so in the event of EMP your systems would have a chance of keeping on working?
[+] ttyl0125|9 years ago|reply
This situation sounds similar to what happened with AO-7: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMSAT-OSCAR_7

Satellite is launched, goes silent after a few years due to electrical problems. Decades later, the onboard batteries have deteriorated such that they're just a short (no storage capacity), and the satellite works intermittently when the solar panels are exposed to enough sunlight.

[+] madengr|9 years ago|reply
Actually an open circuit.
[+] userbinator|9 years ago|reply
In 2013 in North Cornwall, UK, an Amateur Radio Astronomer picked up a signal which he determined to be the LES1 that was built by MIT in 1965.

The date in the URL and article says 2016 though, so I'm still not completely clarified on whether this is 3-year-old news or if the satellite is now transmitting again, again --- actually, looking at the name of the site... I'm leaning towards the former.

[+] grendelt|9 years ago|reply
It's 3 year old news rehashed in 2016 by this blog. Look up history of LES-1.
[+] mgleason_3|9 years ago|reply
Doesn't this remind anyone of "Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home"? ...Where an alien probe comes into earths orbit wreaking havoc to check on the whales and turns out to be an early satllite from earth...

Man, I'm gettin' old.

[+] Saturnaut|9 years ago|reply
You are mixing up two different Star Trek movies. The ship from 'The Voyage Home' wasn't a man made satellite, it was an alien "whale" ship. However in the first Star Trek movie, a massive ship threatens Earth but turns out to be Voyager 1 returning home.
[+] mgleason_3|9 years ago|reply
Dang, that right! Always thought those two were stangely similar...
[+] oldmanjay|9 years ago|reply
You're getting old enough to mix the plots of the 1st and 4th movies together. V'ger was the early earth satellite that the enterprise chased down. The probe seeking humpback whales was of alien origin. According to what I remember of the novelization, the aliens had visited earth before recorded history.

I'm not happy I read the novelization of a Star Trek movie, but there we are.

[+] rubyfan|9 years ago|reply
daisy, daisy give me your answer do