[mreiland]

When it's all said and done with, software needs to be consistent and meet the expectations of its users.

If it does that, the question of a framework or high level documentation or user stories don't matter. Those are tools used to help achieve the above govals, but if you can do so without the use of the tools then the tools aren't all that useful for that particular project.

I sometimes think people miss the forest for the trees. I make the same argument about tests and TDD, the goal isn't tests, the goal is stable, maintainable software. If you can do that without tests, then you don't need tests, and that's ok.