[hga]

You're just name-calling by labeling me a neo-Nazi, I'm pretty sure I've shown no such tendencies nor harbor any. That I assign the NASDP to the loathsome Left as they labeled themselves ought to be a clue there. Opposition if not hate of Nazis was also something inculcated in my generation (I turn 56 in a few days), especially during the Vietnam War, WWII was "the good war".

This relocation position seems to be a general position of the "Alt Right", including the Alt West component, the neo-Nazis are by definition in the much smaller Alt White component.

As explicitly noted by others and implicitly by me, this position holds true for all these separate identity groups, "diversity + proximity = war", and the Alt West's response is to remove the proximity from the equation. I suspect the the Alt White's is to remove the diversity, shall we say, but that would just be another sign of their detachment from reality.

Me, I'm still making up my mind on whether Jews are such a separate group, but I can see where my research is heading, and therefore I don't disavow this position as of now. You do get to decide if this makes me an anti-Semite, although can you be one and be a staunch admirer and supporter of Israel, in every issue I can think of aside from Jonathan Pollard (which is based on my understanding that much of what he gathered would have only been of interest to the Soviet Union, which implies that the unit of Israeli intelligence he'd been working with was compromised by them, but I note now looking at his Wikipedia entry he spied or tried to for many other countries, which if true (this is Wikipedia), puts a rather different complexion on the whole mess: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Pollard#Espionage)?

Anyway, I will ask you about one thing that's come from my general researches: is there not something very special about the post-Babylonian Jews, in that they uniquely remain a large, cohesive group when e.g. the Samaritans, who had roughly many of the same sorts of experiences, now total 777 as of January 1, 2015 according to Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samaritans#Modern_times

That alone suggests you are a different identity group from "whites", and thus fall under the "diversity + proximity = war" logic.

And, yeah, America is your home. I believe it's my home too, but too many on the Left believe I'm "not America" as Hillary explicitly put it, and I don't think America's live and let live tradition applies any more, many groups including American Jews are simply not willing to leave us alone, so I'm searching for the least worst ways to address this.

And I think forcing various native born American groups like yours to relocate (or vice versa) is, or at least has to be on the menu. So is a proposal to revert to the pre-1965 demographics of the US, which would leave your group alone. You certainly know from your people's history that there are much worse selections on the menu.

TL;DR: I don't want to tear this away from you, but I think it might be the best of many bad options, and turning that around, what about the tearing away of America from my group?

And calling for a ban from HN? That won't make the opinions of people like me go away, are you, for example, saying no one who belongs to the Alt Right should be allowed to contribute to Hacker News? Despite the fact that they work with, sell to, and so on to what I and many others on both sides see as an steadily increasing number of members of it?

Would that truly be best for it? The Overton Bubble is clearly a real thing as we've seen from the reactions to his election and the all too many discussions of it and subthreads invoking it on HN, and I don't believe I'm operating out of "hate", or preaching it (well, in this domain, I fully admit to hating gun-grabbers, have expressed that in no uncertain terms on HN before, and been called on it, and have done my best to moderate my expression of it on the issue since then).

[morgante]

That your biggest objection to the Nazis is their supposed socialism is a pretty big red flag.

Your "alt right" position on Jews is precisely that of anti-Semites and Nazis. They too called for the "exclusion if not elimination" of my people.

You should be banned from HN. I will say that in no uncertain terms. You are a hateful person calling for the mass deportation of citizens and threatening "much worse selections on the menu" if that isn't fast enough for you.

Nobody is suggesting that you should be forced out of the country and/or into gas chambers. Get a reality check. Your racist ideology is totally non-sensical: if I didn't tell you, you would have no idea that I wasn't yet another of your favored Aryan whites, yet you still want to deport and/or murder me.

The one thing I'll commend you for is that you post these comments under your real name. That way I can be sure I never work with you.

[tptacek]

This is the worst comment I have ever read on Hacker News.

One of the things that keeps me coming back to HN is the Pavlovian feed of new information. I never know when I'm going to learn something new here.

So, I didn't think the worst comment on HN would come from you, nor did I think it would be so calmly written, or so superficially civil. But I've learned something new. It turns out that a calm, carefully written appeal for direct ethnic violence by an adult is more horrible than any unhinged edgy "alt-right" rant by a teenager.