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kkl | 9 years ago

Most interesting e2e projects have abandoned email, specifically SMTP, as a secure messaging platform. I would look outside SMTP-based solutions if I were to start using a different project (assuming doing so is an option... I hope it is!).

My recommendation here is Signal: https://whispersystems.org/

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CmdrSprinkles|9 years ago

A big problem is that a lot of this is driven less by people who have a genuine need for encrypted communication and more by people who want one on principle. And the latter tend to include the people who are more likely to try The Next New Thing.

And it also makes sense. A lot of these services are from companies that need to make money. And there isn't much money in the journalists and dissidents who don't have a bespoke solution.

NoGravitas|9 years ago

Signal is nice, and I use it. But it's an instant messaging system. Email has different use cases.

I think what we're going to need is a new, non-SMTP protocol, which preserves all of the good things about email, while providing e2e encryption and (pseudonymous) identity assurance. I don't know enough to be involved in designing that protocol, though, other than saying what I want to see as an end-user.

psiconaut|9 years ago

pond has interesting properties, I think the next generation mail will have to implement some of those ideas.

and Signal/WhatsApp comes to replace (and kill) xmpp, not email. Another issue is the generational shift away from email, that is only for Spam and Work, more and more everytime...

kkl|9 years ago

What properties does email have that asynchronous messaging services (e.g. Signal) do not?

Freak_NL|9 years ago

The author of the article mentions Signal as well, but how do you handle communication from a laptop or desktop computer and/or with people who don't own an Android or IOS smartphone?

kkl|9 years ago

Signal does have a desktop application. I believe you can also register a Signal account using a phone number from a service like Twilio. I'm not 100% sure that will work with Signal desktop though.

https://whispersystems.org/blog/signal-desktop/