For those who are also wondering about the briefly mentioned hexagon-shaped jet stream:
One hypothesis, developed at Oxford University, is that the hexagon forms where there is a steep latitudinal gradient in the speed of the atmospheric winds in Saturn's atmosphere. Similar regular shapes were created in the laboratory when a circular tank of liquid was rotated at different speeds at its centre and periphery. The most common shape was six sided, but shapes from three to eight sided were also produced. The shapes form in an area of turbulent flow between the two different rotating fluid bodies with dissimilar speeds
I like this work and the presentation by Tianlu Yuan (2013) about how our knowledge about the subject progressed -- the first photos were made by Voyager (1981-82):
"In the 1980s images of Saturn taken by Voyager led to Godfrey's surprising discovery
of a hexagonal structure on the planet's north pole [9]. Now, over three decades later,
Saturn's north polar hexagon remains, superficially unchanged and not entirely understood.
Voyager's iconic images proved a challenge to explain theoretically, but with additional data
from ground based observations and the HST in the early 90s, and images from the Cassini
mission more recently, our knowledge of many physical parameters forming the hexagon has
increased. Along with observation, laboratory experiments and numerical simulations have
helped foster greater understanding of the possible causes of the jet's six-sided shape."
The more recent pictures (2016) are also interesting, as the color has changed(!):
I read the article and thought I must research into the hexagonal madness. Turned to comments, HN's transcendent consciousness wins again! Cheers gewoonkris.
Thanks for providing these references. The hexagonal cloud formation was the first thing I noticed and was hoping someone would have already provided references in the comments. One of the great aspects of the HN community!
> Saturn's south pole does not have a hexagon, according to Hubble observations; however, it does have a vortex, and there is also a vortex inside the northern hexagon. (o)
could the fact that there is only one hexagon imply a consequence of the 'hairy ball theorem'?(i)
What amazes me the most about the Cassini mission is the drastic inclination changes they managed to achieve around Saturn (see the GIF in the hero section [1]). At first I thought the spacecraft must have had some serious delta-v budget, but in fact the bulk of it was provided by Titan [2] (noteworthy: this page also mentions the Cassini-Huygens communication issue that was uncovered during flight, for which the workaround was already mentioned on HN [3]). Truly amazing work from the navigation team.
Every time I see photos of the big gas planets like this, I imagine earth orbiting the gas giant and feel very, very small and get what feels like mild vertigo from the overwhelming scale. This is truly wonderful
(though this sort of thing is far more impressive when seen in VR)
But even better than that, for me, is going somewhere with very little light pollution at night and simply looking up at the Milky Way. Nothing makes me feel smaller and more in awe.
For me personally this is the definitive video of "practical scale". It doesn't go out of its way to dazzle me with larger and larger pieces of an incomprehensibly large puzzle. Instead it is a simple cause + potential effect, nothing more ;)
For people who are interested , check out Nasa's JunoCam project [0], which invites amateurs to conduct some of the target selection and image processing required on the imagery returned from Jupiter Space. It's also worth noting that JunoCam isn't one of the core scientific instruments on Juno. JunoCam is more like a public outreach initiative bolted on to the real mission, which is about studying the Jupiter's gravitational field, magnetosphere and atmospheric characteristics using a range of sensors. That doesn't of course detract from these wonderful images, but the primary science will not be based on JunoCam outputs
Well said. But, you know, with all its moons and rings, Saturn is way cool-looking than any other planet in our Solar System. That's why they called it that way, I guess.
When we say a spacecraft is nuclear-powered, we're not actually referring to a reactor (with rare exceptions[1]), but instead to something called a Radioisotope Thermal Generator[2], or RTG for short.
Basically, an RTG contains radioactive material (material that undergoes constant, passive radioactive decay). This constant decay produces heat, which is then used to generate electricity via thermocouples.
There's no feedback loop or active control needed, at its simplest an RTG is a solid hunk of metal with no moving parts.
There isn't physically enough of the radioactive material, let alone the precise materials, pressures, and other things needed for a proper criticality / runaway fission effect like an atomic bomb. It's actually much harder to make one than you think ;)
Are you thinking of Juno perhaps? That's not a photo-mission.
Cassini has:
- found "sand" dunes, river channels, mountains, and lakes on Titan
- landed a probe on Titan
- photographed most of Saturn's moons
- discovered gas jets on Enceladus and adjusted the mission to investigate and discovered that they are caused by tidal compression which squeezes out some of the subsurface ocean and forms one of Saturn's faint rings
- discovered and researched how spokes and propellers form in the rings
- documented the shepherding action of the shepherd moons on the rings
- discovered the long-lasting polar hexagon feature
- photographed the rings at equinox, which dramatically shows the vertical displacement of the rings
[+] [-] gewoonkris|9 years ago|reply
One hypothesis, developed at Oxford University, is that the hexagon forms where there is a steep latitudinal gradient in the speed of the atmospheric winds in Saturn's atmosphere. Similar regular shapes were created in the laboratory when a circular tank of liquid was rotated at different speeds at its centre and periphery. The most common shape was six sided, but shapes from three to eight sided were also produced. The shapes form in an area of turbulent flow between the two different rotating fluid bodies with dissimilar speeds
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn's_hexagon
Paper (paywalled): http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0019103509...
[+] [-] acqq|9 years ago|reply
http://www-hep.colorado.edu/~tianlu/public/saturnHex_paper.p...
http://www-hep.colorado.edu/~tianlu/public/saturnHex_present...
"In the 1980s images of Saturn taken by Voyager led to Godfrey's surprising discovery of a hexagonal structure on the planet's north pole [9]. Now, over three decades later, Saturn's north polar hexagon remains, superficially unchanged and not entirely understood. Voyager's iconic images proved a challenge to explain theoretically, but with additional data from ground based observations and the HST in the early 90s, and images from the Cassini mission more recently, our knowledge of many physical parameters forming the hexagon has increased. Along with observation, laboratory experiments and numerical simulations have helped foster greater understanding of the possible causes of the jet's six-sided shape."
The more recent pictures (2016) are also interesting, as the color has changed(!):
http://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2016/10/31/satur...
And for completeness, the comics from 2010:
http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2010-07-06
[+] [-] jubes|9 years ago|reply
[+] [-] grzm|9 years ago|reply
[+] [-] justifier|9 years ago|reply
could the fact that there is only one hexagon imply a consequence of the 'hairy ball theorem'?(i)
(o) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn's_hexagon
(i) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairy_ball_theorem
[+] [-] mxvzr|9 years ago|reply
[1] https://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/news/2966/ring-grazing-orbits/
[2] https://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/spacecraft/navigation/
[3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12483579
[+] [-] ajmurmann|9 years ago|reply
[+] [-] pmoriarty|9 years ago|reply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoW8Tf7hTGA
(though this sort of thing is far more impressive when seen in VR)
But even better than that, for me, is going somewhere with very little light pollution at night and simply looking up at the Milky Way. Nothing makes me feel smaller and more in awe.
[+] [-] ribasushi|9 years ago|reply
https://youtu.be/HFT7ATLQQx8?t=55
[+] [-] johnchristopher|9 years ago|reply
Something along the line; "Way too big, way too smooth to be natural. Almost hostile, evil"
[+] [-] rimantas|9 years ago|reply
[+] [-] mturmon|9 years ago|reply
[+] [-] wrongc0ntinent|9 years ago|reply
[+] [-] KineticLensman|9 years ago|reply
[0] https://www.missionjuno.swri.edu/junocam/processing/
[+] [-] isomorphic|9 years ago|reply
Other than the one we're standing on, you mean.
[+] [-] dyukqu|9 years ago|reply
[+] [-] andreapaiola|9 years ago|reply
[+] [-] sakri|9 years ago|reply
[+] [-] caycep|9 years ago|reply
[+] [-] ekimekim|9 years ago|reply
When we say a spacecraft is nuclear-powered, we're not actually referring to a reactor (with rare exceptions[1]), but instead to something called a Radioisotope Thermal Generator[2], or RTG for short.
Basically, an RTG contains radioactive material (material that undergoes constant, passive radioactive decay). This constant decay produces heat, which is then used to generate electricity via thermocouples. There's no feedback loop or active control needed, at its simplest an RTG is a solid hunk of metal with no moving parts.
There isn't physically enough of the radioactive material, let alone the precise materials, pressures, and other things needed for a proper criticality / runaway fission effect like an atomic bomb. It's actually much harder to make one than you think ;)
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_space#Fission...
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioisotope_thermoelectric_ge...
[+] [-] forkwhilefork|9 years ago|reply
[deleted]
[+] [-] wtk|9 years ago|reply
[+] [-] smegel|9 years ago|reply
Edit: reply was correct, I did in fact mean Juno.
[+] [-] prewett|9 years ago|reply
Cassini has:
- found "sand" dunes, river channels, mountains, and lakes on Titan
- landed a probe on Titan
- photographed most of Saturn's moons
- discovered gas jets on Enceladus and adjusted the mission to investigate and discovered that they are caused by tidal compression which squeezes out some of the subsurface ocean and forms one of Saturn's faint rings
- discovered and researched how spokes and propellers form in the rings
- documented the shepherding action of the shepherd moons on the rings
- discovered the long-lasting polar hexagon feature
- photographed the rings at equinox, which dramatically shows the vertical displacement of the rings
- plus way more
http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov is a better site. There is a record of some of the top findings at https://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/galleries/hall-of-fame/
[+] [-] zeroer|9 years ago|reply
[+] [-] duskwuff|9 years ago|reply
[+] [-] SteveNuts|9 years ago|reply