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tmptmp | 9 years ago

>>(Don't get me wrong, shit like Conservapedia has been around for years now. But most of the stuff I read, for better or worse, has been pro-social justice, pro-multiculturalism, etc. until now. Do fewer people buy into that nowadays? Or is what I'm seeing the result of more people participating?)

I am a liberal too and multiculturalism is good to some extent but I hope you don't want to bring Islamic sharia based barbaric culture (e.g. honor killing, stoning women, throwing gays off buildings) in the name of multiculturalism.

But what I have discovered is the left/liberal failure to address the rational fear of Islam (the barbaric, vicious ideology) that is grappling the minds of most sane people.

Liberals and leftists are failing to address these issues. Their response to this threat of Islam is utterly dishonest: they shun even legitimate criticism of the barbaric ideology of Islam under the phony reason of Islamophobia/racism. People have fed up with this.

I don't support Trump to a large extent. But I see that many people see only Trump making an attempt to address this issue in a meaningful manner. No surprise, he cashed on it.

Sam Harris has put it quite aptly: Liberals failure to talk honestly about Islam is responsible for the rise of Trump [1]

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YCWf0tHy7M

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dang|9 years ago

We've banned this account for repeatedly conducting religious flamewars, which is an abuse of this site. If you don't want it to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that this won't happen again.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13144192 and marked it off-topic.

alistproducer2|9 years ago

From tmptmp's profile:

>Am I against Muslims? No, I do have many Muslim friends...

"I have many [insert ethnic group here] friends" is always a red flag. I'm just trying to figure out how you managed to get 700+ karma on here?

There are most definitely better places to wage your Internet crusade. Please don't junk up HN with this copypasta drivel.

grzm|9 years ago

You make a very good point about the thread going off topic (though you're doing it a bit yourself upthread) and rightly bring it up. Please do so civilly, though. Please don't junk up HN with this copypasta drivel. isn't constructive.

grzm|9 years ago

Please don't be tempted to discuss politics in a partisan manner, especially taking things further afield of the submission topic, regardless of what's happening in the thread.