[berntb]

OK, after thinking about this.

I have problems with non serious debaters that argue dishonestly. This is a subject where people write dishonest propaganda and where I have read a bit.

I can handle a few dishonest debaters, see previous comments, but there were too many here.

I guess the hateful people won. :-)

(I don't really have any interest in the subject matter, for a few I years I followed my native media with NYT/BBC/Washington Post.)