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blueish | 9 years ago

It'll be interesting to see if they decide to go back to it. Knowing Apple, they will most likely keep the touch bar, but it might be the case that they decide to add it back after the backlash the touch bar has received.

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eridius|9 years ago

How many people complaining about the missing escape key have actually used a touch bar computer, though? I've seen precious few examples of someone saying "I bought that MacBook, and have used it for some time, and I still want a physical escape key". I'm not saying these people don't exist, I'm just saying that I think nearly all of the naysayers are people who haven't actually bought the computer.

the_hoser|9 years ago

I have. Fired up the terminal and started Vim. 5 minutes later I was convinced that my next computer will probably come with Windows. Really sad, too. I don't have to blow away the OS to get a decent experience on a Mac.

SakiWatanabe|9 years ago

I know at least two people. Me and a friend of mine. Both of us bought the 15" touch bar MBP and later returned it.

- there were some issue with the keyboard on both of our MBP

I exchanged it for a non touch bar MBP instead. He exchanged it for an old 2016 MBP.

carsongross|9 years ago

The touch screen should be where the trackpad is, and modal. Your hand is already there, you have multiple degrees of freedom (not just left-right) and apple would finally have a logical place to put the mobile experience it so desperately wishes to bring to the desktop.

Put your iphone on your touchpad for a demo.

The touch id should be down there too.

the_hoser|9 years ago

I can't remember where, but I read an interesting piece pleading with apple to bring the 17" macbook pro back. If you think about it, it makes a lot of sense. The extra headroom for the keyboard means they can easily cozy the touch bar in above the normal function keys. The extra chassis means they can put a bigger battery in there. The extra screen size would be... well it would be awesome.

But that's all a bunch of dreamy tech fluff. Apple has it's sights set squarely on a customer that most certainly isn't using the product for professional purposes.

vectorpush|9 years ago

Yeah, 17" is pretty much a prerequisite for me as far as laptops go. I was in the market for a laptop a few years back and considered the MBP but I ended up going with the 17" Asus Zenbook and have been very pleased with it. I'll admit that the MBP has a bit better build quality, but I'd say the Zenbook is 90% there but much cheaper, much better specs, and of course I got my 17" display.

It was only later I discovered that the newer MBPs don't play nicely with Linux, so I dodged a bullet there.

philliphaydon|9 years ago

There's enough room to have the function keys and touch bar now... the way they should have done it to begin with.

AndrewNCarr|9 years ago

Apple could shrink the touchbar enough to have space for the esc key. They could have also included a single classic USB type A receptacle and kept the magsafe power connector... so who knows.