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Show HN: Privacy-focused, ad-free, non-tracking torrent search engine

1183 points| kasumis_ | 9 years ago |skytorrents.in | reply

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[+] jimparkins|9 years ago|reply
Hi,

Love the site especially the speed. But disappointed that the search indexes the name of the container of the torrent only and not the name of the files within the torrent.

To date the only site I know that does this is "filelisting dot com" but their website is very slow.

Do you have any plans to extend your product to add this feature. Maybe as a premium option?

Super useful to find single documents contained within archived bundles of files.

[+] yakult|9 years ago|reply
Suggestion: get rid of the torrent files and just serve magnet urls in plain text without a clickable button. This way you get rid of the knowledge of who-downloaded-what, and also save some bandwidth.
[+] unicornporn|9 years ago|reply
> just serve magnet urls in plain text without a clickable button

That would make it impossible to copy the magnet link from the search results page, which I believe is a really nice usability perk. For users that are less technically inclined, clickable links could be crucial (even if it gives you the theoretical possibility to track the click).

I guess it depends on if you are prepared to be a search engine only for the 1337 crowd, or if you want casual users to have access to a decent search engine too. The Hacker News crowd could still just right click and copy the magnet link, so essentially you're just removing features for those who don't understand how technology works but are still dependant on it.

Perhaps the best idea would be to keep the link and have a text area for selecting and copying like requested above.

Consider this.

[+] leni536|9 years ago|reply
> This way you get rid of the knowledge of who-downloaded-what, and also save some bandwidth.

I don't get this. It's a magnet link with magnet protocol. It will be handled by your torrent client, no additional request to the server whatsoever if you click on them. It's the same as plain text copying, but more convenient.

[+] kasumis_|9 years ago|reply
If 2 more users recommend this, it will be done.
[+] mike-cardwell|9 years ago|reply
Alternatively: Just don't log downloads of the torrent file? Those who care can use the magnet link, those who have a use case for the torrent file can get the unlogged torrent file.

I prefer using torrent files, because I can just wget/curl them down into a directory being watched by my server which downloads torrents.

[+] fulafel|9 years ago|reply
The DHT search from the magnet lookup will announce to the world what you are downloading, no?
[+] supergreg|9 years ago|reply
> magnet urls in plain text

A magnet as a link would be more useful. I'm sure the people worried about letting others know what they download can copy the link without clicking anyway.

[+] rz2k|9 years ago|reply
I don't do web development or design, but is tracking the selection of text that will be copied more difficult that tracking clicks in actual practice?
[+] CaptSpify|9 years ago|reply
Don't you realize that you can't build a usable site without mountains of JS and user-tracking scripts? /sarcasm

It's really refreshing to see a fast, small efficient site that gets rid of all the bullshit. Congrats!

[+] TeMPOraL|9 years ago|reply
Yes!

At first I literally couldn't believe what I was seeing - ZERO third-party bullshit in uMatrix. Not just none to unblock to make the site work - none at all!

(Apparently you can make a website without downloading Bootstrap from someone's external CDN...)

And then... oh my God, how fast the site is. I can actually feel I have a somewhat modern, powerful computer. Usual day-to-day browsing makes me forget that.

So yeah, for this reason alone I'll be using and recommending this site. Great job!

[+] disiplus|9 years ago|reply
with all free services it starts this way ( look at imgur and so on. ) and eventually ends in ads ridden monster.

but we usually end up in a couple of years great service, before they figure out that they could be earning money with serving ads or selling data.

[+] jasonjayr|9 years ago|reply
A few other folks have mentioned this, but a (monthly?) dump of the database, offered as a torrent link on the site would be fantastic.

Not only would it enable offline searching, but when the inevitable take down shows up, folks can still continue to search the database.

[+] kasumis_|9 years ago|reply
7 more votes to get it done.
[+] ivanhoe|9 years ago|reply
this is actually a great idea.. +1
[+] karthikp|9 years ago|reply
That site served blazingly fast. It's refreshing to see an ad free torrent site.

Since you aren't monetizing the site, how are you planning on keeping the site running? Donations?

[+] carbonmachine|9 years ago|reply
The top 1000 has a lot of software. The thought of running pirated software always filled me with unease, having been burned by malware in my younger days. Only tangentially related to this really well done torrent search (so snappy!), but does anyone have a feel for how safe this software is in general? Do security firms do any analysis on it?
[+] kasumis_|9 years ago|reply
We have an AI based differentiater which detects fake or malware infested torrents. However, since this is alpha state and is used sometimes. Once we are satisfied, it will be deployed. We still have deployed different mechanism to detect and fake torrents. There is also Voting and commenting for the community
[+] BinaryIdiot|9 years ago|reply
Growing up I heard horror stories of people pirating versions of Windows, Office, etc that had backdoors installed. If you download pirated software there isn't a real way to know for 100% certainty that it isn't laced with something.

So I avoid it like the plague. Even if the majority don't have anything it only takes the one and then, depending on its level of sophistication, you're screwed.

[+] belorn|9 years ago|reply
Security in this space is based on reputation and trust. Users and groups who has a long history of uploading files with no malware is more trusted than freshly created accounts.

To make a analogy, imagine a world where there existed no government food inspectors. I would expect that visiting restaurants would become more dangerous, but my behavior would also change. I would only visit established places where people before me have eaten and proven that the food aren't poisonous.

[+] pratikborsadiya|9 years ago|reply
https://github.com/you-dont-need/You-Dont-Need-Javascript Here is a good collection of web-components which can be implemented without using JavaScript. Hope it helps you guys in developing the site. All the best.
[+] omtinez|9 years ago|reply
Thanks for sharing that! Some of them are just a big pile of CSS which I don't know if it's a better option than JavaScript... But others were pure gold and a very clever use of HTML (like the carousel)
[+] buro9|9 years ago|reply
Suggestions:

1. Enable whois privacy via Gandi

2. Hide your server IPs behind Cloudflare

3. Ensure the site is written such that it is trivial for yourself and others to use alternate domain names

[+] julius|9 years ago|reply
#1 on HackerNews -> [Dynamic Search-Result] Page served in 39µs

What kind of dark magic is this? What's your stack?

[+] etatoby|9 years ago|reply
My guess is that he's using a compiled language such as Rust or Go, with a lightweight non-blocking framework, plus intelligent caching of backend queries, plus a decent backend such as Sphinx or PostgreSQL.

Compare with interpreted languages for the frontend and Java monsters as backends (PHP and Lucene anyone?)

People forget what modern computers are really capable of, when used properly.

[+] philtar|9 years ago|reply
Yeah it's stupidly fast.
[+] newscracker|9 years ago|reply
I'd suggest using another TLD or having multiple TLDs to avoid losing it even temporarily (if at all someone decides to take this domain down). The .in TLD policies [1] require a real and accurate address of the registrant, which is not provided for this domain [2]:

> Contact information: Registrants must provide true, accurate contact information. The following contact types are required: Registrant, Administrative, Technical, Billing. As per standing policy, the contact data will displayed in the .IN WHOIS, except for the Billing contact data, which is not displayed.

[1]: https://registry.in/Policies

[2]: https://registry.in/whois/skytorrents.in / http://whois.domaintools.com/skytorrents.in

[+] sfilargi|9 years ago|reply
Ridiculously fast! Would love to hear about your stack. C, what else? What database, template library?
[+] mc42|9 years ago|reply
This is absolutely incredible, and the load times are incomprehensible for a modern site.

What software powers the site?

I did some looking and discovered it uses Bulma [1] instead of Bootstrap, and it's absolutely amazing. Another commenter pointed out that the site also uses Caddy for HTTP/2 and HTTPS.

Excellent work, keep it up!

[1] - http://bulma.io/

[+] platinumm|9 years ago|reply
Thanks , for such search engine,that really includes no javascript and no cookies in any form.

Secondly Its amazingly fast, I believe its more than just C language. I tried different combinations of searches on your search engine to check whether results are being served from cache or so. And it looks all searches(don't know your cache/uncache db design) are several times faster comparable to many. + +1 for speed. Also i feel i found a minor bug.

Even though it looks passion project but don't know how long will you survive fighting DMCA ,others, costs without monetizing plans or accepting donations. Won't mind donation if you accept.

Till you survive, i am glad for your engine.

[+] kasumis_|9 years ago|reply
Please file the bug on the email address mentioned on the website.
[+] jzelinskie|9 years ago|reply
Thank you for working on this project. What is your indexing strategy?

Similar search engines have a warning that you should use a VPN when downloading that I think would benefit users.

[+] raldu|9 years ago|reply
Notice how they make it difficult and painful to file DMCA complaints:

https://www.skytorrents.in/dmca

Genius.

[+] edraferi|9 years ago|reply
Doesn't seem too painful to me. They're basically just asking for an email with all the stuff that's legally required to be in a DMCA notice.

Here's what the DMCA requires[1]:

(i) A physical or electronic signature of a person authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed.

(ii) Identification of the copyrighted work claimed to have been infringed, or, if multiple copyrighted works at a single online site are covered by a single notification, a representative list of such works at that site.

(iii) Identification of the material that is claimed to be infringing or to be the subject of infringing activity and that is to be removed or access to which is to be disabled, and information reasonably sufficient to permit the service provider to locate the material.

(iv) Information reasonably sufficient to permit the service provider to contact the complaining party, such as an address, telephone number, and, if available, an electronic mail address at which the complaining party may be contacted.

(v) A statement that the complaining party has a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law.

(vi) A statement that the information in the notification is accurate, and under penalty of perjury, that the complaining party is authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed.

[1] https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/512

[+] rycho|9 years ago|reply
the fact that DMCA takedowns are applied to services that simply index other parts of the web is completely insane
[+] jordsta|9 years ago|reply
Uh, could purely be a coincidence but the favicon looks identical to the logo of UK TV corporation Sky (albeit with less colour): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sky_plc_logo.png
[+] slg|9 years ago|reply
Are you really complaining that a site that is dedicated to copyright infringement might be misusing a trademark? I have a feeling that is the least of their legal concerns.
[+] simonjgreen|9 years ago|reply
And now it's changed to something that looks rapidly scratched down in paint :D
[+] simooooo|9 years ago|reply
Sky TV will be on it in no time
[+] dandare|9 years ago|reply
add-free, non-tracking, not accepting donations - call me paranoid but unless I know why are you doing this I have to assume the worst. There simply is no free lunch.
[+] krisgenre|9 years ago|reply
Wow! its super fast and NO Javascript!!!

Where are you hosting it and do you plan to monetize?

[+] nemof|9 years ago|reply
hey, just a thought, but at some point if this gets too popular you will probably get a message from the UK TV company SKY who wont be super happy about your name.
[+] aembleton|9 years ago|reply
Or the favicon that looks like it was lifted straight from on old version of their website.