[bbananas]

> The pedestrians now block the vehicle, and the vehicle blocks the bike lane

Entering the bike lane appears to be legally-required [1] behavior for a driver turning right across a bike lane in California. Entering the intersection, however, i'm not sure about.

Illustrated here: https://www.sfbike.org/news/bike-lanes-and-right-turns/

[1] https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySectio...

[Stratoscope]

What is scary is how few drivers in California know about this rule or the reason behind it, which is for the safety of the bicyclists.

Near my home there are several intersections with bike lanes, and I estimate that perhaps one driver in 10 enters the bike lane to make the right turn as they are required to.

In fact, I sometimes get surprised or even dirty looks from drivers making illegal right turns when I do move into the bike lane to make the turn. I guess they think I'm trying to get ahead of them and cut them off, but I'm not, I'm simply following the law and improving bicycle safety.

[phil21]

When only 10% of drivers apparently know the correct way, the problem is with the system not the drivers.

Better signage and more consistent (state to state) rules that make common sense would go a long way.

Keeping in mind what is common sense to a biker is many times counter-intuitive to a driver. I hate the unprotected bike lanes on the right - as a driver you simply are not expecting people to be passing you on the right, on what effectively "feels" like a shoulder. It amazes me there are not more deaths due to this, to be honest.

After I spent some time in the Netherlands and Belgium I realized this was not just me. Those systems actually work and are designed with "road sharing" in mind. Everyone gets where they need to go, and even a dumb foreign tourist who knew nothing of local traffic laws could operate a vehicle safely amongst cyclists.