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leeleelee | 9 years ago

This was my thought too. Poker is quite "solvable" meaning, whenever you're confronted with a decisions -- there is always a "correct" answer which does not have to depend on the other players' behavior or style. And you can find that answer by simulation, or game trees, and other methods.

It's also important to keep in mind that the best AI can still lose, and the worst AI can still win (and everything in between). Poker involves randomness, obviously whereas chess/go/etc does not.

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mormegil|9 years ago

That depends on what you mean by "correct". Sure, you could theoretically find Nash equilibrium of poker and by playing the equilibrium strategy, you can ensure you won't lose. But that does not mean this is the best strategy to use at a given table against the given opponents, who (being imperfect humans) almost certainly do not play the equilibrium strategy themselves. And, by playing a proper nonequilibrium strategy, suited to the specific players, you can win more.

andrewprock|9 years ago

The usual way these games are solved is to create an "abstract" game which is tractable, find the Nash equilibrium, and map state in the real game back to the "abstract" game. In the limit, the solutions for a well designed "abstract" game will converge to that of the real game.

yAnonymous|9 years ago

>there is always a "correct" answer

That's wrong. Even when you're holding a good hand, your opponent could hold a better one and reading them is a key element of poker. The opponent's hand is an important variable to decide whether you hold the winning hand or not.

If you look at the experiment in detail, you'll find that it was set up in the AI's favor.

>When a hand was all-in before the river no more cards were dealt and each player received his equity in chips.

While all that is less important when you can avoid all-in situations, the main statement -that the other player's behavior is irrelevant- is still wrong.

yazr|9 years ago

>>If you look at the experiment in detail, you'll find that it was set up in the AI's favor.

Could you elaborate on this ?