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falsestprophet | 9 years ago

It is important to understand the United States is leading a bombing campaign that has recently killed over 50,000 people in Syria and Iraq. Killing people on a vast scale from countries and also accepting immigrants (including military age males) from the same country at the same time is more complicated than #WereACountryOfImmigrants.

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knz|9 years ago

> United States is leading a bombing campaign that has recently killed over 50,000 people in Syria and Iraq

Isn't it a bit disingenuous to omit the fact that both Iraq and Syria have areas experiencing active warfare? The bombing campaign is not occurring in a vacuum, is targeted at people engaged in warfare against us or our allies, and those conflicts have killed far more people than just the bombing campaign - including via the use of chemical weapons.

I'm not trying to justify civilian casualties, the ongoing drone attacks on multiple continents, or even answer whether we should be involved in these conflicts - I just think the situation is more nuanced than "the US has bombed/killed 50,000 people in Syria and Iraq".

finid|9 years ago

Isn't it a bit disingenuous to omit the fact that both Iraq and Syria have areas experiencing active warfare?

But what you seem to ignore is that the active warfare in both countries was caused by us. And in Libya too.

Think about that. Those countries are now a mess because of "regime change".

whatshisface|9 years ago

While that may be true, the odds that something that hasn't happened in eight years could happen in 90 days are pretty small. Most of what agitated people was the order's execution, which involved some fallout that may have been avoidable.

finid|9 years ago

But think about this for a second; if not for us destabilizing those countries, there will be no refugee crisis to deal with.

We basically took the most and arguably the most prosperous country in Africa (Libya) and ruined it. Now we're refusing to take in those fleeing from our mess. We did the same thing in Iraq and Syria.

But it seems we're not done yet. Iran is next.

Bit is anybody protesting war against countries that can do us no harm? Nah! It makes for good war video games and Hollywood war movies.

CaptSpify|9 years ago

Yeah, why should we help clean up any of the mess that we've been causing? /sarcasm