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floopidydoopidy | 9 years ago

Although astroturfing doesn't seem to be a problem on HN, I'd really appreciate it if you didn't do it.

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dang|9 years ago

Since you've done this repeatedly and ignored our request to stop, we've banned your account.

Actual astroturfing, when it occurs, is an abuse of HN that we crack down hard on. Defending this community against gaming and abuse is a huge priority for us. Any user who thinks they might be seeing it happen on HN should email us right away (hn@ycombinator.com) so we can investigate.

Imaginary astroturfing—the bug that causes some users to be certain that those who disagree with them can only be nefarious shills because otherwise the pure reason of their own point of view would be fully accepted—is also an abuse of HN. This one is orders of magnitude more common, and it is poison. It eats away the heart of civil, substantive discourse, the assumption of good faith on the part of others.

Therefore we ban astroturfers, and we also ban users who accuse others of astroturfing or shilling without evidence. An opposing view does not count as evidence, and playing this card as a rhetorical device in an argument breaks the HN guidelines.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13607640 and marked it off-topic.

whyileft|9 years ago

This shouldn't be downvoted. There is definitely at the minimum Microsoft employee vote brigading at this point. HN needs to start making upvotes, downvotes, and time of vote public.

dang|9 years ago

Accusations of astroturfing or shillage without evidence are a serious breach of civility on HN. Since you've done it before and ignored our request to stop, we've banned your account.

All: both astroturfing and groundless insinuation thereof are against HN's rules. For more, see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13610097 upthread.