Before taking a look at this I would encourage anyone to look into Michael Landy's Break Down[0][1][2], where the artist first cataloged and then destroyed everything he owned (except for a pair of overalls) including his vintage saab and all of his correspondence.
That work at least has the weight of a real gesture. The linked work seems (generously) fairly banal by comparison.
Why would he have to destroy it all? Couldn't he give it away to someone who might need it or at least be able to use it? Just seems like a bit of a dick move all in the name of "art"
I was happy to see cleaning supplies, tools, and cooking gadgets. Every time someone posts one of those 'I only own 12 things' posts, that's the first thing I think about/look for.
Oh, you just spilled a drink? Better call a cleaning lady because you don't even own paper towels.
Time to a cook a meal? Nope, can't. Better just eat out instead.
Something is broken? No duct tape, can't go over my 12 item limit, throw out the broken thing and buy a new one.
It all seems so impractical while also oozing of privilege. Must be nice to not have to repair anything or ever cook for yourself.
> It all seems so impractical while also oozing of privilege. Must be nice to not have to repair anything or ever cook for yourself.
Actually eating at cafeteria is what least wealthy people, e.g. students, do. Buying food cooked in batch and sharing instruments is cheaper than maintaining your own kitchen and possessions.
I'm interested in the four identical toques in different colors. Minimalism certainly doesn't seem to be the goal - why are there four? Is it a collection of designs that have earned their love? Are they really nice toques? Can we infer something about the owner's gender (probably bald, probably male)? Or their location (far north?)
How committed to hipsterism is this guy? The "Raw denim jeans" - 4 pairs in varying stages of fadedness, but all of them definitely raw denim. Is it the "Little Prince" theory of how your possessions own you as much as you own them
? Is it a statement that your essence is a gestalt of all the things you own? There's a collection of wrenches and allen keys, as well as pots of fountain pen ink. "Hipster" isn't a precise enough term. How hard are you guys relating to this individual, purely through the stuff he's got? You can see that he lives in an apartment in a cool city, thinks of himself as practical as well as aesthete, probably thinks he's a rugged individualist too, but he's put a lot of effort into fitting in with a very specific demographic.
I don't know. I guess I spent enough time thinking about it that's served it's purpose as art.
To coordinate with different outfits? I mean I don't care, I only have the one unadorned black one, but I can see where someone else might. (I also live in Baltimore, which is not so very far north. Anywhere temperate, a toque can be a handy thing to have - although we more often call them knit caps, down here. Nor am I bald; you don't need a shiny head to need something keeping it warm.)
I don't grasp the intent, either. Perhaps there isn't one. Not long ago I might've written it off as pure wank, but just lately I've been thinking about how to compose my own photographs with artistic value, whatever that means - which makes it a little hard to indulge in the same kind of offhand dismissal I'd rather not have aimed at me.
There's nothing about the site that really conveys the magnitude of items besides page __ of 12, and you can't even browse by category as if it were an online shopping site, or see original purchase price. He's not utilising the chosen medium of an online shopping cart, so why even use Shopify in this case? It's a minimalistic image gallery with captions.
Sometimes the message is bland or the artist does a bad job of communicating their intentions. And this is one of those situations where I wouldn't fault the viewer as much as the artist for "not getting it."
I don't understand this style of, minimalism? Isn't the point to remove the power your possessions have over you? Not obsess over minifying the amount of possessions you own?
I think you're jumping to the conclusion that that's the point. Certainly many see removing the power possessions have over us as a positive, but art around this subject could be exploring it from different angles, and I don't see that stated anywhere in this installation. It could well be a celebration of consumerism[1], or just an exploration of obsession over possession.
[1] Worth noting, the installation is sponsored by shopify
I am all for removing clutter from one's life.. i lived out of a backpack for more than seven years.. but honestly what I see is a lack of intellectual curiosity
I have more capacitors I salvaged from street trash than 'all this person posses'
I see a unfortunate homogeneity of subject matter
There is a wide breadth of cultures and forms of knowledge and expression in the world
I hope to involve as much of it in my life as possible
Wow, I own even less stuff than this guy. When I started being a digital nomad, I was able to fit all of my worldly possessions in half a suitcase and one laptop bag...
What about the bank account? I can virtually own nothing if I'm a billionaire and buy everything I need during the day. It wouldn't mean I own "nothing", and it would be an environmental nightmare!
It would be much nicer if everything were on one page instead of 12. Scrolling down is easy and relaxing, moving your mouse and clicking on the next link breaks the flow.
It would be nice to see the absolute minimum amount of stuff one would need to survive in the modern world (reasonably). This seems like a loose upper-bound.
It's very unlikely that such a global minimum exists if it is not zero, and it is probably zero if you consider all of the things which are free, and do not consider survival skills "stuff"
ycmbntrthrwaway|9 years ago
[0] https://allipossess.com/products/key-ring
[0] https://allipossess.com/products/lock
[0] https://allipossess.com/products/bend-key
[0] https://allipossess.com/products/old-key
[0] https://allipossess.com/products/broken-key
[1] https://hackaday.com/2009/09/22/photographic-key-duplication...
[1] https://keysduplicated.com/
DrScump|9 years ago
cmyr|9 years ago
That work at least has the weight of a real gesture. The linked work seems (generously) fairly banal by comparison.
[0] https://www.artangel.org.uk/project/break-down/
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Break_Down_(Landy_artwork)
[2] http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20160713-michael-landy-the-...
synicalx|9 years ago
NickBusey|9 years ago
Oh, you just spilled a drink? Better call a cleaning lady because you don't even own paper towels.
Time to a cook a meal? Nope, can't. Better just eat out instead.
Something is broken? No duct tape, can't go over my 12 item limit, throw out the broken thing and buy a new one.
It all seems so impractical while also oozing of privilege. Must be nice to not have to repair anything or ever cook for yourself.
ycmbntrthrwaway|9 years ago
Actually eating at cafeteria is what least wealthy people, e.g. students, do. Buying food cooked in batch and sharing instruments is cheaper than maintaining your own kitchen and possessions.
Kluny|9 years ago
How committed to hipsterism is this guy? The "Raw denim jeans" - 4 pairs in varying stages of fadedness, but all of them definitely raw denim. Is it the "Little Prince" theory of how your possessions own you as much as you own them ? Is it a statement that your essence is a gestalt of all the things you own? There's a collection of wrenches and allen keys, as well as pots of fountain pen ink. "Hipster" isn't a precise enough term. How hard are you guys relating to this individual, purely through the stuff he's got? You can see that he lives in an apartment in a cool city, thinks of himself as practical as well as aesthete, probably thinks he's a rugged individualist too, but he's put a lot of effort into fitting in with a very specific demographic.
I don't know. I guess I spent enough time thinking about it that's served it's purpose as art.
throwanem|9 years ago
To coordinate with different outfits? I mean I don't care, I only have the one unadorned black one, but I can see where someone else might. (I also live in Baltimore, which is not so very far north. Anywhere temperate, a toque can be a handy thing to have - although we more often call them knit caps, down here. Nor am I bald; you don't need a shiny head to need something keeping it warm.)
I don't grasp the intent, either. Perhaps there isn't one. Not long ago I might've written it off as pure wank, but just lately I've been thinking about how to compose my own photographs with artistic value, whatever that means - which makes it a little hard to indulge in the same kind of offhand dismissal I'd rather not have aimed at me.
KON_Air|9 years ago
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Neliquat|9 years ago
hfsktr|9 years ago
I don't get art I guess.
et-al|9 years ago
There's nothing about the site that really conveys the magnitude of items besides page __ of 12, and you can't even browse by category as if it were an online shopping site, or see original purchase price. He's not utilising the chosen medium of an online shopping cart, so why even use Shopify in this case? It's a minimalistic image gallery with captions.
Sometimes the message is bland or the artist does a bad job of communicating their intentions. And this is one of those situations where I wouldn't fault the viewer as much as the artist for "not getting it."
waiseristy|9 years ago
lucideer|9 years ago
[1] Worth noting, the installation is sponsored by shopify
MrLeap|9 years ago
justifier|9 years ago
I have more capacitors I salvaged from street trash than 'all this person posses'
I see a unfortunate homogeneity of subject matter
There is a wide breadth of cultures and forms of knowledge and expression in the world
I hope to involve as much of it in my life as possible
inimino|9 years ago
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atomwaffel|9 years ago
He does, however, only seem to possess one pair of boxer shorts.
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