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Ask HN: I have 50k. How do I make it more without a startup?

31 points| zeynalov | 9 years ago

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Kaizyn|9 years ago

The only way to make it grow is through investing it. The more risk you take on, the higher it has the chance to grow. However, at the same time you have an increased risk that you'll lose your investment.

A money market account is safe and leaves your liquid assets in a state where you can get them easily. The downside is a poor rate of return.

Tax-exempt bonds (local, state or federal) are an attractive option provided that the rate of inflation doesn't exceed your rate of return or reduce it to effectively nil.

Another sensible option would be to pay off any debts you have. Your income is your best way to grow wealth, and every dollar you pay in interest is a dollar taken away from your future earnings. Even though this isn't as exciting an option as putting your money in the stock market, this might be your best bet longer-term.

If you have no debt, then the $50k would go a long way towards a down payment on a home - that way you can stop paying rent, which is another source of wasted earnings.

cauterized|9 years ago

I agree with the rest of the advice, but buying a home is not a good investment in all parts of the country/world, nor at all times. A home you own decreases your mobility and thus your employment options, especially if the labor or housing market in your area plummets in the future.

In other markets, home ownership and all its associated costs (including property taxes and maintenance) is more expensive in both the long and short term than renting.

For instance, for what I pay in rent in NYC (PLUS a down payment), I would have to commute at least 3 times as long to afford to buy an equivalent home. And also have to add the responsibility (in time and expense) for maintenance - from upgrading the plumbing to shoveling snow from the sidewalk.) Further, it'd be much more difficult to see friends, whom I'd no longer live near. That's all time that could instead be spent with friends and family, being healthier, or even making money on a side project or freelancing.

And if you get poor terms on your mortgage (think variable rate loans), you're just setting yourself up for pain.

nicholas73|9 years ago

"The more risk you take on, the higher it has the chance to grow."

Not true, and it's often opposite where higher risk means a higher overall worse performance. You can also do more homework than others, and/or have more patience than others.

scraft|9 years ago

I got 'talked into' moving a chunk of money out of a current account into a combination of investment ISAs and Personal Investment Plans with Scottish Widows. Over 5 years they have increased in value by about 35%, so average 7% per year. Here is one of the ones I used:

http://webfund6.financialexpress.net/clientsv21/scottishwido...

I went in knowing nothing, and wouldn't have done it if my bank hadn't pushed me in that direction (the department of the bank no longer exists) and I guess I got lucky, as it has worked out well for me.

PLEASE NOTE: investment ISAs/Personal Investment Plans with Scottish Widows can go up and down. Also bear in mind I an openly saying I know next to nothing about this, so please don't jump into anything without researching it carefully.

powera|9 years ago

Get a job.

There's no way for you to reliably make even 20k in the next year off of an investment of 50k unless you are going to be personally involved in it. You will also almost certainly make at least 20k at your job in the next year, and can probably figure out a way to increase your salary by 20k.

ixacto|9 years ago

Put 5k in NYSE:BND for your emergency fund, Fidelity/Vanguard/Etc work about the same. Then put 5500 in Roth IRA NYSE:VOO. Then do the same for your work 401k account if you have one. Put the rest in a brokerage account in NYSE:VOO, maybe save 5500 for 2018 IRA.

gnarbarian|9 years ago

Try an index fund.

anotheryou|9 years ago

Same boat here. I'm really scared of a stock market crash.

zeynalov|9 years ago

is it a good idea if I don't have any experience on that field?

venkasub|9 years ago

'more' in terms of value? Then, take a break and roam the world. You can sustain for 2-3 years and do a RTW at a slow-n-steady pace and also make some money in the interim :)

khalll|9 years ago

Buy Bitcoin for 50k and sit on it. Not even kidding. :)

MildlySerious|9 years ago

Only if you have the calm and patience to sit through a major dip. Or wait until then to buy.

Bitcoin as an "investment" is a lot more volatile than most other options. But, as of now, also a lot more profitable.

gesman|9 years ago

and/or diversify BTC with Monero

techthumb|9 years ago

Given that you are in Australia, I suggest that you look at Forager Funds Management. I think they provide a reasonable way to enter the stock market.

LeonB|9 years ago

I concur.

cauterized|9 years ago

If you take a few months off to live on that money and learn something new, would it be enough to increase your earnings by $100k total over the next 5-10 years? That's also an investment, and one that's got a decent chance of doubling your money in a reasonable timeframe.

merchang|9 years ago

Index fund, real estate. Personally I like real estate because I find the principles of it intuitive.

staz|9 years ago

I would recommend reading the book "Your money or your life"

scorpioxy|9 years ago

An unusual recommendation perhaps but recently I've been thinking of starting a small online business. Investing in that seems to offer the better risk to reward ratio. It also doesn't require a large capital to start. Consider that perhaps?

zeynalov|9 years ago

I don't have time to start a business, otherwise I wouldn't ask (see the title). I just look for ways to make it more with doing one time jobs (like investing, buying selling etc.) which I don't have to do the thing on a regular basis but one time and make it 51k after some time, for example.

staz|9 years ago

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mattnumbe|9 years ago

What happened to downvotes?