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Show HN: A virtual phone number for your company based on Twilio

134 points| hme | 9 years ago |thisnumber.rocks | reply

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[+] Animats|9 years ago|reply
Doesn't look good. Remember, you're giving this unknown business the power to snoop on your phone calls. Do you want to open that back door?

No visible privacy policy. No visible pricing information. Not good.

Twilio can do this without any help from these guys.[https://www.twilio.com/labs/twimlets].

[+] Falling3|9 years ago|reply
That's my first thought. Why not just do it yourself? Especially when twimlets are around.
[+] tallanvor|9 years ago|reply
Why is there no information on the costs or requirements? It seems the only possible way to find out is to sign up, which requires providing an email address...
[+] aatishnn|9 years ago|reply
Some things that need fixing:

- I could just create an account with nothing entered on the password field and could also login to that account that way.

- https://thisnumber.rocks/ is not being pointed to this same app.

[+] cryptarch|9 years ago|reply
That link you posted gives me a cert error.
[+] hme|9 years ago|reply
Thanks ! I'll fix this.
[+] beejiu|9 years ago|reply
If you don't need the opening hour logic, you can already achieve this will Twilio's Twimlets.
[+] mxuribe|9 years ago|reply
Wow, I've never heard of Twimlets; very cool! Thanks for sharing!
[+] josh_carterPDX|9 years ago|reply
Twilio has something called "Twimlets" that make setting this up very very simple. For voicemail you simply have to create a separate "twimlet" and have the resulting URL attached to the other one you use for the forwarding.
[+] philips|9 years ago|reply
Yes, we string a couple of Twimlets together to direct people to support or general inquiry phone lines. Works really well. No problems in 3+ years.

The menu one in particular: https://www.twilio.com/labs/twimlets/menu

[+] scosman|9 years ago|reply
We use a twimlet for our business number. It simply plays a recording directing people to our support web page and email (phone support would be too expensive). A surprising number of places need a phone number; for example, Stripe includes it in the charge description.
[+] dbg31415|9 years ago|reply
Years ago one of my clients had an internal system like this... it tried numbers in sequence... but the problem was for the person who dialed in this meant very long wait times if the first person or two weren't responsive. Also we hit issues where the message would end up in someone's personal voicemail box.

Then we switched to more of a "ring all the lines at once and the first one who picked up got the call" -- much better for the person dialing in... but meant every one of our support people got distracted every time the phone rang... they hated it.

Eventually we just went back to something like ZenDesk for customers to write in to create tickets, and then expanded it to something more like what Apple does... where the user creates a request to be called back at a certain time. This is what the client still uses. It's a better system for everyone than trying to sort out incoming calls in real-time.

[+] degenerate|9 years ago|reply
But now it's bad for the customer again. When they need help, they are ready to call and get their problem solved now, not at some point later in the day.

If you're Amazon/Apple/eBay and the "call me on my phone" allows 1-5 minute time windows to being called, that makes sense, but if the customer is sitting around for 10+ minutes you've already frustrated them.

[+] koolba|9 years ago|reply
Isn't this exactly what Google Voice does?
[+] zhte415|9 years ago|reply
Is this like DNS for a Twilio number? That's what I get. If I misunderstand could you fill out more, as if so this could be useful for contingency planning.
[+] nickodell|9 years ago|reply
It's more like DNS using Twilio. It's analogous to Google Voice.
[+] robojamison|9 years ago|reply
How is this any different from Google Voice?
[+] scrollaway|9 years ago|reply
Looks like this is "bring your own number". It's neat, but I wouldn't trust this site to stay up under any kind of stress, which means my number would be erratically dead. If the source is available though, this is neat enough I'd consider self-hosting it.
[+] nubrimo|9 years ago|reply
it's available in more countries than the US
[+] napoleond|9 years ago|reply
This looks neat! BTW (shameless plug), for anyone using a Twilio number for voice and wishing to easily add SMS functionality, I created https://www.smsinbox.net last year.
[+] azonliner|9 years ago|reply
That's something I've been looking for, however $75 a month? Ouch!!
[+] m4tthumphrey|9 years ago|reply
[+] pbhjpbhj|9 years ago|reply
I don't understand how you make money, which makes it look like there's going to be hidden costs. If I start at https://www.windsor-telecom.co.uk/memorable-business-number/... and choose, for example, a revenue generating number then go to the payment it says I get a free number that diverts to my phone for no up-front cost and zero monthly fee. So how does that work for you?

Ah, hang on the slide-away at the side says £10, whilst the "STEP 5" says £0. Looks like there might be an issue with your business logic?

[FF51 on Ubuntu.]

[+] yogeshgirdhar|9 years ago|reply
How is this different from the hundreds of VOIP services out there?
[+] jalons|9 years ago|reply
This one is new, so they haven't learned all the corner cases that make VoIP more difficult than anticipated.
[+] throwaway2016a|9 years ago|reply
I don't think this qualifies as VOIP. It's not even POTS or mobile. It is just an interface for an API.

Although with that said... knowing the Twilio API and looking at this design I think someone could build this in about a day.

[+] hme|9 years ago|reply
You keep control over your number, which you bought on Twilio.
[+] JustSomeNobody|9 years ago|reply
What is your strategy for when Twilio goes away?
[+] throwaway2016a|9 years ago|reply
I too would like to know what the thought behind this question is. They are a well established company that runs 2FA and awesome phone apis / systems for thousands of startups and large companies in a field that is high barrier of entry (less competition) and predictable profits since they meter their usage.

The only thing I can think of is if a competitor enters the space and blows them away. In which case, there is your answer, you go to whomever blew them away.

I can't imagine a lawsuits or something like that taking them down at this point. They have been around too long, it would have happened already.

[+] goshx|9 years ago|reply
Not OP, but I am honestly curious to know why you think they will go anywhere soon. Could you please elaborate?
[+] onassar|9 years ago|reply
Awesome well done @hme Big fan of services that plug into your own billing system (rather than acting as a proxy).
[+] scrame|9 years ago|reply
Isn't this part of what twilio does already?
[+] grigoryvp|9 years ago|reply
Such thing can be created in a few lines of JavaScript code via Voximplant

BTW, anyone interested in a tutorial? I can create one.

[+] BoorishBears|9 years ago|reply
Dropbox is just an FTP server.

I'm not saying this will be the next Dropbox, but dismissing products so offhandedly because you underestimate the average user's aversion to "writing a few lines of Javascript" is silly.

[+] throwaway2016a|9 years ago|reply
Op got downvoted a lot (and perhaps deserves it because of the tone of his post) but makes a valid point.

This is nothing like dropbox. This is barely a hello world app on the Twilio platform. I have little doubt he could write a tutorial to walk people through it in an hour two two.

This would be a good analogy if you dropbox was literally just provisioning a user and setting an FTP password. And if it was, Dropbox would hit scaling problems on almost day one.

This won't hit scaling problems because it doesn't do anything... Twilio's API has built-in API calls for all this stuff and the webhooks can (and should) be hosted on AWS Lambda or Google Cloud Functions for pretty much free with automatic scaling.

[+] finid|9 years ago|reply
Yes, go ahead, write the tut.