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jzila | 9 years ago

It's great and beautiful. However, it isn't yet as powerful as Jenkins Classic. So if you've been using Jenkins for a while, there's a good chance that Blue Ocean doesn't have the power/granularity you'll need.

It also switches your default GitHub links to Blue Ocean. If you only want to try it out, you'll have to tell your users to switch their Notification URL back to Jenkins Classic in their user configuration page. (If there's a way to do this for everyone, I'd love to hear it.)

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i386|9 years ago

Is there anything in particular is preventing you from moving to Blue Ocean? I'd love to know!

As for the Github links, as you mentioned a user can set their preferred UI (Blue Ocean or "Classic") in their user preferences easily. We do understand that this might be difficult for some administrators to swallow and are looking at a global option to turn that behaviour on/off [1]

[1] https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-43205

jzila|9 years ago

First of all, congratulations on an excellent job with the design and UX of Blue Ocean! There's tremendous potential here.

I hate to use HN for bug reports, but since you asked about roadblocks (thank you for asking!):

For one, we use build triggers to ensure downstream dependencies are tested as well as the current project. I would have expected some kind of pipeline integration between those in BO (displaying the triggered build pipeline in the parent pipeline as a whole), but instead BO actually makes it more difficult to get to downstream builds.

Classic:

https://jzila.keybase.pub/classic_downstream_build.png

https://jzila.keybase.pub/classic_downstream_build_detail.pn...

Blue Ocean:

https://jzila.keybase.pub/bo_downstream_build.png

Note that in BO it isn't clickable, so I have to either manually type the URL or go back to Classic.

Some display bugs in the pipeline view:

- Issues with display of pipeline nodes in running builds that make what's happening pretty confusing: https://jzila.keybase.pub/running_build_display_bug.png

- Issues with display of pipeline nodes in finished builds (falsely reporting node failure): https://jzila.keybase.pub/finished_build_display_bug.png

Minor grievances:

- Nodes run in parallel don't have their hierarchy preserved: e.g. parallel(a: {}, b: parallel(c: {}, d: {})) all get collapsed into a, b, c, d parallel nodes in the BO pipeline view (as you can see in the bo_downstream_build screenshot above).

My contact info is at https://keybase.io/jzila if you need more details.

moondev|9 years ago

Can you elaborate? It's just a plugin at that lives at /blue. In my experience it doesn't remove functionality at all. You can still use "normal" Jenkins just the same.

i386|9 years ago

And you can easily switch between Blue Ocean and the Classic UI at will. Just look for the exit button at the top of the screen to get back to the equivalent page in classic then click "Open Blue Ocean" in classic to go to the equivalent place in Blue Ocean [1]

[1] https://jenkins.io/doc/book/blueocean/getting-started/#switc...

gtirloni|9 years ago

Exactly what I was thinking. When I access Jenkins, after having installed Blue Ocean, I'm still greeted with the traditional UI and the "Open Blue Ocean" button.

I do see the option in my user settings page but I don't understand what it's for. What is this "notifications URL"?