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Anagram Scoring

295 points| oli5679 | 9 years ago |blog.plover.com

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[+] DonHopkins|9 years ago|reply
It's uncanny some of the acronyms you can find in "advanced mode" at https://wordsmith.org/anagram/advanced.html :

First find some good words in a couple of short phrases:

Y Combinator: Combat Irony, Romantic Boy, Acronym Obit, Bay Moron Tic, Not Bay Micro, A Brim Tycoon, A Born Comity, My Bacon Riot, Into My Cobra, Tiny Crab Moo

Hacker News: She Knew Arc, Knew Search, Whack Sneer, Cranks Whee!!! (emphasis added ;), Shaken Crew, Ashen Wreck, Answer Heck, Rewash Neck, Eschew Nark, Rakes Wench, Swank Cheer, Ark Wenches, Warn Cheeks, A Neck Shrew, Wrecks a Hen, Knew Re Cash

Then put them together and enter your favorite words into "Anagrams must include this word" (or manually remove the letters of the words you want to keep if it says the input is too long):

Y Combinator Hacker News:

New Mob Cash Racket Irony

I'm sure there are more, but I'm just going to stop right there!

EDIT: I just can't stop!

Tricky Wannabe Moochers, Cannabis Coworker Thyme, Cybernetics Nohow Karma, Wacko Minty Abhorrences, Betcha Wonkier Acronyms, Wacko Cerebration Hymns, Romantic Wonky Breaches, Beckons Worthy American, Inaner Worthy Comebacks, Chicken Anatomy Browser, Antiwar Cockney Hombres, Awaken Botcher Cronyism, Obscene Wonky Matriarch, Nonsmoker Raceway Bitch...

[+] theoh|9 years ago|reply
"Chicken Anatomy Browser" sounds like a really dull pedagogical tool, maybe a 90s CDROM...
[+] e12e|9 years ago|reply
> Hacker News: She Knew Arc

Poetic and true (if we're a little generous with gendered pronouns)

[+] korethr|9 years ago|reply
At least a few of those sound like the could be fun band names.
[+] DonHopkins|9 years ago|reply
The Internet Anagram Server at https://wordsmith.org/anagram/advanced.html has an "advanced" mode that you can use to incrementally refine long anagrams once you find juicy words, by entering the words you want to keep in the "Anagrams must include this word" field.

I'll bet dollars for donuts that nobody can find any worse anagrams for their own full name than I've found for my own, "Donald Edward Hopkins":

The "clean" runner up is:

"Dank Washed Dildo Porn"

But the winner is:

"We Shank Dildo Porn Dad"

[+] zem|9 years ago|reply
I do a lot of multiword anagramming to set crossword clues, and I realised what I really wanted was a simple tool that would let me work out anagrams by hand, but do the bookkeeping for me. so I wrote it: http://martindemello.net/wgn.html
[+] e12e|9 years ago|reply
At my previous place of work, in a fit of post-modern, hipstery redesign, the hotel bar got a back-lit sign stating boldly:"NORMAL IS BORING" (And the reception area also got a life-size black plastic horse-lamp that apparently cost some 4-5000 euros[1]). My initial search turned up:"MINORS LABOURING" as a kind of suitable answer to this challenge. This was quickly spotted by the hotel manager, changed back with an accompanying angry post-it note stating: "Do not mess with the sign". My second attempt was more simple, and effective - changing the sign to read "BORING IS NORMAL". This more simple and true statement stayed up for a week or so before anyone noticed that the sign accurately reflected the corporate culture. It's since been changed back.

[1] https://www.connox.com/categories/lamps/floor-lamps/moooi-ho...

[+] jakobegger|9 years ago|reply
This tool is awesome!

The dirtiest anagram for my name I found is: "BRA EGG JOKE"

Still pretty harmless.

But this one is hilarious: "JAR BE KEG, GO!"

[+] BurningFrog|9 years ago|reply
I have a competitively bad one, but I don't want to reveal my name here.
[+] tyingq|9 years ago|reply
The last time this was posted, I scored his list with Levenshtein edit distance. It was, predictably, not as good at bubbling up the best anagrams. His winner scored 11, so still somewhat near the top, but not standing out as well.

https://gist.github.com/anonymous/431b163b2a2d532bfd0a3bdcc7...

[+] asragab|9 years ago|reply
Actually, I think you did alright, especially given you found

11 counteridea reeducation

Which is not only anagrammatic morphologically but perhaps conceptually in some way in that counterideas are "mixed" into reeducation?

It would be interesting to find other anagrams that also share some relationship semantically.

[+] lloeki|9 years ago|reply
This sort is great but the longest ones are a mouthful and not that great. The middle part has quite some gems, though there are also a lot of uninteresting ones to weed out as they follow some swapping pattern:

    "$1$2$3$4" == "$3$2$1$4" if /^(.*)(o)(.*)(al|ist|is|ia|y)$/
Anyway, here goes my list!

09 "capernoited deprecation" sounds like something I could use daily!

09 "cinderous decursion" is sad but beautiful scenery.

09 "canopying poignancy" just breaks my heart.

10 "romanticise miscreation" is all about art.

09 "assorting organists" just sounds fun!

09 "exterminate antiextreme" is just extreme in its own way.

11 "paternalistic antiparticles" is terrific anthropomorphism.

09 "ancestorial lacerations". ouch.

09 "adsorbing signboard". I just read it as a pun merging "absorbing ad signboard"

09 "amortised mediators". Interesting because mediators act as dampers, and "amortir" in french means both "damping" and "amortising"

10 "presential interlapse" just flows.

10 "interlaced credential". Is that an encryption scheme?

08 "nightcap patching" is beautiful.

08 "timesaving negativism". Ha, you bet.

08 "supersonic percussion". Boom.

08 "unsoiled delusion". That one's beautiful, like a Chiaroscuro.

08 "latescent tentacles", Cthulhu or something

08 "voidless dissolve", Cthulhu or something

08 "misnomed demonism", Cthulhu or something

07 "relating triangle". Did anyone play Thomas Was Alone?

10 "postmineral trampolines". I don't know, but it involves trampolines.

Even in the smaller values there are some good ones that don't sound like anagrams.

06 "trashed threads". A though for you, C++ and Java folks.

06 "tipful uplift". Now, that's the spirit!

06 "straying stingray". Works for both the 'vette and the sea-farer.

06 "monetize timezone". People are evil, sometimes doubly so.

But the best one to me (probably because it resonates deeply with my recent personal situation) is:

06 "ideals sailed". So long.

[+] sixstringtheory|9 years ago|reply
That was one thing that came to my mind. I also wonder what it'd look like by minimizing LCS score of anagram pairs. Too lazy to code it right now though =/
[+] jimmytucson|9 years ago|reply
Perl was the first programming language I learned. I spent about 2 years writing programs in it and studying it exclusively. Nowadays I don't use it at all. However, if I had chosen another language first then I never would have read Higher Order Perl -- truly one of the most brain-wrinkle-inducing books I've ever read, and loaded with examples of beautiful code (in Perl, no less!). Can't recommend it enough.
[+] i336_|9 years ago|reply
It gets even better, apparently!

http://hop.perl.plover.com/book/

> This is the publisher's own PDF proof of the second version, which was sent to the printers in August 2005.

> This is better than the bootleg copies available from download sites (...): It is the complete text of the second printing, which incorporates many minor corrections; the bootleg copies are all bootlegs of the first printing.

> Higher-Order Perl is not in the public domain and is not available under a free license of any sort. I distribute it from this web site by virtue of special permission from the publisher.

> You may download the book for your personal use, but you may not distribute it to other people, either individually or by uploading it to a file-sharing service.

FWIW, IMO anyone who wants to build an EPUB has all the tools and data they need to make a perfect rendition, and from reading that web page I think the author would be very receptive (and make it available from his site).

[+] kccqzy|9 years ago|reply
I think it can be much more interesting if these anagrams are not just limited to single words, but whole phrases or sentences. Makes the search a lot harder I think, but the results are much more fun. I especially like authors who incorporate those linguistic tricks in their works like "Vivian Darkbloom"/"Vladimir Nabokov" or "Tom Marvolo Riddle"/"I Am Lord Voldemort".
[+] dandelany|9 years ago|reply
Years ago I discovered "Britney Spears"/"Presbyterians" and it remains one of my faves.
[+] sytse|9 years ago|reply
an·a·gram ˈanəˌɡram/ noun a word, phrase, or name formed by rearranging the letters of another, such as cinema, formed from iceman.

funny that the textbook definition of anagram is the word that is the basis of the winner here: cinematographer

[+] cody8295|9 years ago|reply
I think 'clitoridean directional' is a clear winner
[+] i336_|9 years ago|reply
Some time ago I iterated through all the links at http://storage.googleapis.com/books/ngrams/books/datasetsv2.... to get their Content-Length. All up it's 21TB compressed. Just US English comes in at about 9GB or something though IIRC (unsure, might be completely wrong).

With this being said, the data is very, very very raw and unprocessed (contains things like "xxiv_DET", "X25.000_NOUN", "X1E", "X16_NUM" etc, just to give some random examples from the Xs). Would be a lot of work to sanitize it, but you might get some interesting results in the process.

So IOW this would be somewhere between "toy" and "interestingness from chaos".

[+] transposed|9 years ago|reply
That is very cool. I am the type of person who enjoys anagrams, and started toying around in Python (http://adamantine.me/index.php/2016/09/02/python-anagram-tut...), but I never thought of rating the anagrams... My next step was to generate a list of names that are anagrams of other names, or take the corpus of The Dark Tower series and see if you can discover any interesting anagrams (as it is a motif in the series).
[+] donquichotte|9 years ago|reply
Nice write-up, especially the comparison of rearranging letters and computing every permutation of a list to find d the one that is sorted.

BTW, my favourite anagram in German: Zitronensaft - Fronteinsatz (lemon juice - service at the front (mil))

[+] oska|9 years ago|reply
Whenever I walk past a sign in front of a house advertising that it will soon be up for auction, I rearrange the letters to spell caution. (Especially with the overinflated house prices in Australia currently).
[+] ShannonAlther|9 years ago|reply
Another 14-pointer which was overlooked:

nitromagnesite <--> regimentations

[+] defined|9 years ago|reply
My second-most favorite pair of anagrams after the movie-showing giant bat is coprophagist topographics.

Detailed maps of areas in which dung-eaters live? Worth buying just to avoid the neighborhood... :)

Edit: These anagram pairs would also make interesting Short Authentication Strings for ZRTP. Worthy of a Monty Python skit, if you ask me.

[+] raldi|9 years ago|reply
Might be interesting to give bonus points to pairs of words with origins far apart on the linguistic taxonomy.
[+] Darthy|9 years ago|reply
Yes. I think there are multiple scales to give words or pairs bonus points on:

- there is also a moral outrage scale where you want at least one word to be on (if one word of the pair was about sex and the other one was about the church, that would be great and funny).

- then there is also a boringness scale (boring: "habitat", not boring: "shebang"), where you ideally want both words to score highly.

- then there is also a understandability scale. "cholecystoduodenostomy" is a bad word because very few people know what it means. Lower this down until you understand all the words and the result will be much more satisfactory.

[+] kpil|9 years ago|reply
So the best anagrams in English are actually Greek (?)

"Soapstone teaspoons" is 80% old English with a splash of Chinese.

Interestingly, most germanic words seems to be rather short. But I guess the reason for using long Greek, Latin or French words is to look important, so the longer the better.