[moofight]

Disrupt their appeal and outreach by:

- no longer showing the faces / names / manifestos of the suicide bombers on media

- showing the people who stand up, who demonstrate, who fight for our values rather than showing the panic, chaos, people running for their lives

would that help?

[chmod775]

What would help is stop making such a giant fuzz about it every time something happens. The media just "likes" these kinds of events because they make emotions run high.

In reality terrorism accounts for less than 0.01% of premature deaths, yet nations spend magnitudes more surveilling their own citizens and fighting stupid wars (to no apparent avail) than they spend on fighting various other things that kill more than a thousand times (> 1000x) more people.

Here's a nice chart visualizing the disproportional response: https://i1.wp.com/thinkbynumbers.org/wp-content/uploads/2008...

[DefundTerrorism]

>In reality terrorism accounts for less than 0.01% of premature deaths,

Sure death by terrorism is only a blip. But the amount of money spent on spreading terrorist idealology is insane.

The problem is, our ally, Saudi Arabia, is spending Billions on Wahhabist Terrorism Propaganda aka Petro-Islam. In fact, money trails show KSA funded 90% of Wahhabist Terrorism Propoganda (Petro-Islam) around the world through mosques and literature.

From Wikipedia:

>Wahhabism has been accused of being "a source of global terrorism", inspiring the ideology of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), and for causing disunity in Muslim communities by labelling Muslims who disagreed with the Wahhabi definition of monotheism as apostates (takfir) and justifying their killing. It has also been criticized for the destruction of historic mazaars, mausoleums, and other Muslim and non-Muslim buildings and artifacts.

>Saudi Arabia is called the "cradle of Wahhabist Terrorism". In fact, Saudi Arabia funded an estimated "90% of the expenses of the entire faith [wahhabism]", throughout the Muslim World, according to journalist Dawood al-Shirian.

>It extended to young and old, from children's madrasas to high-level scholarship. This spending has done much to overwhelm less strict local interpretations of Islam, according to observers like Dawood al-Shirian and Lee Kuan Yew, and has caused the Saudi interpretation (sometimes called "petro-Islam") to be perceived as the correct interpretation – or the "gold standard" of Islam – in many Muslims' minds.

>The Salafi movement is often described as being synonymous with Wahhabism.

[golergka]

Then you change the media from capitalist goals to propaganda.

While everyone agrees that media that cares for views and nothing else can be nasty, it's the inly 'objective' measure of what media should show that we can get. When media editors start using their influence for (in this case, very noble) political goals, we find ourselves at their mercy.

There's a constant theme in modern democracy that when a certain institution tries just to be a projection of it's customers wishes, it can reveal that these wishes aren't that good. Like Airbnb hosts being racists - is it the problem with individual hosts, or should Airbnb be responsible? Same with media and views: if people react better to sensationalizm and terrorist manifestos, should the media filter their disguisting desires, like a big caring brother, that knows what's best for us? Or should it do whatever we want, showing us all the gore and uglyness?

I don't have the answers, and most importantly, I don't think I have a logical framework for these problems. Do you?

[dingaling]

> - no longer showing the faces / names / manifestos of the suicide bombers on media

The UK authorities tried that approach through the 1980s regarding the situation in Northern Ireland; PM Mrs Thatcher's infamous "oxygen of publicity" policy was a response to a general feeling that the media were advertising for the terrorists.

However it was worse than ineffective; no-one receiving their primary news of the situation from TV was likely to volunteer for action, and it became symbolic of the Government's seeming powerlessness, that they had to hide the bad news behind censorship.

Aside: I remember being disappointed when hearing Gerry Adams' actual voice for the first time, having heard him dubbed by an actor throughout my childhood. The actor sounded more authorative!

[plehoux]

Self-censuring the media to me is completely wacko, it's just gonna fuel conspiracies and increase reach of far-right ideology.

Keep calm and keep going.. also means keep reporting.

[pfortuny]

In my opinion, much more useful than a terrible caption, a standard "keep calm and carry on" would be much more hurtful to the terrorist's aims than spreading the news and the "terror" (which is what they want...).