[IslaDeEncanta]

Ignorance is no excuse for the natural consequence of capitalism? Capitalism is founded on exploitation, don't blame it on the engineers.

[Sunset]

> Capitalism is founded on exploitation

As opposed to being founded on stealing other people's stuff.

[vinceguidry]

That was what civilization was founded on. Capitalism came many iterative ticks later. It's actually way less exploitative than the regime it replaced, feudalism.

[appleflaxen]

yes... voluntary exploitation. the whole point of capitalism is that any transaction requires both parties to enter voluntarily.

it's not always pretty (and needs regulation to prevent monopoly formation, which the US currently lacks) but the alternative systems with involuntary transactions are demonstrably worse.

[robotresearcher]

> the whole point of capitalism is that any transaction requires both parties to enter voluntarily.

When one party is hungry, and the other is not, voluntary participation does not imply freedom of choice.

[jpttsn]

Exactly! You can't just go around treating engineers like adults.

[aleksei]

So if someone gets shafted it's their own fault?

[jo78]

Oh boy...so what do you tell your kids an adult is? Someone who does whatever it takes, no matter if they need to, no matter who it hurts right? It's a highly misguided view that breaks down as soon as you hit life's roadblocks and require someone else to help you out.

[mkempe]

Actually, laissez-faire capitalism is the system of freedom -- inalienable individual rights, free minds, free trade, and free markets.