[rustynails77]

>> I've heard this argument before - that women are deliberately socialized to be subordinate. >That's because it's a fairly well established fact.

Citation please. Work from Dr Simon Baron Cohen, the Director of Autism Research Centre (ARC) in Cambridge, appears to clash with your statement. He is an expert in child psychology and has conducted tests on young babies and noted strong trends based on gender at less than 12 months of age. This, at least in my mind, does not align with your "well established fact" that behaviour is socially driven and would point to biological differences playing a significant factor. If you're going to cite a well established fact, it's value adding to provide credible sources because hear-say doesn't progress an intelligent conversation.