[leovonl]

Computer Science is a science field, therefore computer scientists usually see themselves as something more than an engineer - you don't want to apply the same knowledge over and over to make something exactly as the known knowledge tells you to do, you want to try new things and experiment with new ideas. That's the general mentality of the degree by itself.

Real "software engineering" would have to be done with Agda, Coq, or similarly tools - theorem provers that guarantee your solution is sound. It is done that way for software that absolutely cannot fail (eg, aerospatial). Unfortunately, engineers are usually too far away from this kind of knowledge - and sometimes even doubt this is possible or doable, even if you direct them to the research (!).

By the way, software engineering disciplines are usually depressive OO garbage, frameworks and all that non-sense that comes with excessive Java usage, and frankly never teach anything about reliability or even proving programs correct - which should have been their primary goal.

[pjmlp]

Having a degree in informatics engineering I strongly disagree with that, given the lectures we had as part of our curriculum.