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igk | 8 years ago

Interesting, must admit I am skeptical of the earnesty here (PR...). I am at work so I couldn't flesh it out properly, but I sent a cobbled up list of topics that I would love an official consideration on (hell, if they want I would love to work with them on some of this)

1. Digital selfdetermination. Having the right to not have pictures of you made public (where is a setting that automatically UN-tags me and blurs my face in pictures I don't approve?) as a private person vs. having a right to talk about public individuals, companies, filtering etc. without impedance

2. Following on that, collaboration with law enforcement instead of deleting/censoring.

3. Retroactive denial of usage. This applies more in the EU, but how does facebook plan to address the idea/need to revoke usage of my personal data after it has been used/possibly sold (IIRC you don't sell data directly, but that might have changed since then)?

4. Data takeout: what about making it easy to download and archive all posted content, but also uploaded content related to the individual (tagged pictures, mentions)

5. The status of facebook as a transnational, as "infrastucture" and it's relationship to the democratic and social systems in different countries

6. The ethics of curating and counter curating topics in the feed/related content for powerusers

7. The role of the defacto largest dataset on human communications and the use of that for AI research as well as the impact of AI and automation on society. Combined with that the position facebook would take on possible solutions like UBI

8. The impact of the "highlight reel" on depression and mental health. Studies have shown that heavy facebook use correlates with depression

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joatmon-snoo|8 years ago

At the very least, this is a good first step. Certainly, there are a lot more ethical questions to ask than are raised in this post (although I do think a lot of the questions you raise fall under the questions they suggest in their post, they just flesh them out more, e.g. (1) and (2) are intrinsically tied to the second-last question).

But culture is a serious thing, and managing it is hugely important for how a company handles big-picture issues, rather than simply letting them get tossed about in the waves. It definitely seems a bit late in the game for Facebook to start doing this - they passed startup scale years ago, and they've had some very big fuckups (c.f. News Feed experiments) - but it says something that they're stepping up to the plate to acknowledge this now, especially in the public eye.

I wonder what the discussion about this is like internally. I haven't had a chance to ping anyone I know there yet about this.

Santosh83|8 years ago

For point one, you can set it so as to have every tag of you in a post (not comments) be queued for review by you before they show up on your timeline. You can untag yourself during reviewing.

If you think Facebook should automatically recognise your face on other people's public posts (where you are NOT tagged) and blur THEIR pictures, I don't know if that's not just reverse censorship.

On a related point, FB could come up with a system that publishes any image with tags of personal profiles only after all those tagged profiles have approved their tags, or removed themselves, but that might significantly delay the post and inconvenience the poster.

kodt|8 years ago

Even if you don't have a FB account, people can upload pictures of you and tag you in them. It won't be linked to an account, but your name will be tagged to the picture.

dotancohen|8 years ago

> Having the right to not have pictures of you made public (where is a setting that automatically UN-tags me and blurs my face in pictures I don't approve?)

The minute that Faceshmuck implements that, you'll find half of 4chan posting your pics along with Barbra Streisand's mansion. Technology trumps privacy, information wants to be free, yada yada yada.

igk|8 years ago

I'm talking about the possibility of going to a party, somebody taking a picture (as is their right) and then uploading it and tagging me. That I would like to have the filter for. If they really care that much about connecting me to the party, sure, but as a "casual privacy protection" it's about the same level as keeping your facebook wall private