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“Which word begins with “y” and looks like an axe in this picture?”

615 points| Gigablah | 8 years ago |english.stackexchange.com | reply

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[+] peterkelly|8 years ago|reply
This reminds me of the scene in Silicon Valley where Peter Gregory notices the popularity of Burger King, the number of sesame seeds they use, and remembers that sesame seeds only grow in Myanmar, Brazil, and Indonesia - the former two of which have large Cicada populations that emerge at different times. After some research, he finds that this is about to occur simultaneously in both countries for the first time in a couple of centuries. Apparently Indonesia doesn't have cicadas, so he purchases some surprisingly cheap Indonesian sesame seed futures based on the expectation that the price will spike next year.

Whoever did the detective work in the top answer to this article should get into investing, if they aren't already.

[+] bradleyjg|8 years ago|reply
That reminds me of a scene from Liar's Poker, I wonder if it was the inspiration:

Remember Chernobyl? When news broke that the Soviet nuclear reactor had exploded, Alexander called. Only minutes before, yet Alexander had already bought the equivalent of two supertankers of crude oil. The focus of investor attention was on the New York Stock Exchange, he said. In particular it was on any company involved in nuclear power. The stocks of those companies were plummeting. Never mind that, he said. He had just purchased, on behalf on his clients, oil futures. Instantly in his mind less supply of nuclear power equaled more demand for oil, and he was right. His investors made a large killing.

Minutes later, Alexander called back. “Buy potatoes,” he said. “Gotta hop.” Then he hung up. Of course. A cloud of fallout would threaten European food and water supplies, including the potato crop, placing a premium on uncontaminated American substitutes. Perhaps a few folks other than potato farmers think of the price of potatoes in America minutes after the explosion of a nuclear reactor in Russia, but I have never met them.

[+] wolfgke|8 years ago|reply
> Whoever did the detective work in the top answer to this article should get into investing, if they aren't already.

I know some person who does this kind of detective work, let's express it this way: as a private, really time-intense hobby. Among others he revealed a complicated case of insolvency fraud and investment fraud involving multiple countries and stooges. The sole reason he started all this detective work was because some customer was not willing to pay him as agreed for a web design job that he did (surely not more than 2000 €) - you cannot make up such a reason and story.

While he has a lot of talent for this kind of detective work, I would never give or lend him any money for the single reason that he simply has not the slightest magic touch for making money.

[+] uiri|8 years ago|reply
Such excellent acting.

RIP Christopher Evan Welch

[+] ozzmotik|8 years ago|reply
i certainly have to agree entirely with what you said. i just recently got into watching silicon valley and have been binge watching it, and you definitely have a point with how the analysis in the top answer is very reminiscent of the mentality that Peter Gregory would so frequently display.
[+] seesomesense|8 years ago|reply
Sesame seed production – 2014 Country Production (tonnes) Tanzania 1,138,920 India 811,000 Sudan 721,000 China 629,900 Myanmar 519,400 Nigeria 434,990 World 6,235,530
[+] louprado|8 years ago|reply
⅄xe. See my comment below.
[+] CJefferson|8 years ago|reply
This is the kind of deep investigation of a super specific issue I always enjoy reading. This is what I thought the internet would be, 20 years ago.
[+] sp332|8 years ago|reply
It's a sign of a "cognitive surplus", because we have more educated people now than we have jobs for them to do. Also it's a sign of how these sites get people to work for them for free, and concentrate huge amounts of other people's work for their own benefit. This poster got nothing for all that work, but SE still gets advertising revenue driven by interest in the content.
[+] paulgb|8 years ago|reply
The smaller stack exchanges are a really wonderful source of content I never thought I needed to know. I always check out the "hot network questions" side panel when I land on stack overflow and almost always find something interesting.
[+] thearn4|8 years ago|reply
It's a shame that the internet devolved into cat pictures, pervasive advertisements, and political shouting matches. On the other hand, there are still some great communities out there for great discussion. I consider HN to be one of them.
[+] asciimo|8 years ago|reply
Exactly. I started skimming the article like I do most these days, scrolling to the punch line while collecting the gist. When I got to the part about the ball being a knock-off, I was struck with excitement because I knew I wanted to read this whole thing, word for word.

Almost as good as the story about the missing German family (http://www.otherhand.org/home-page/search-and-rescue/the-hun...)!

[+] oblio|8 years ago|reply
Isn't the internet just a reflection of humanity, at this point?
[+] nothis|8 years ago|reply
Pretty sure we had stuff like that in 1997!
[+] ryanx435|8 years ago|reply
you should read some of /pol/'s analysis of the email leaks from last year: it was truly a wonder of crowd-sourced investigation. They even set up meta investigators (managers?) to help guide the anonymous users' investigations to make sure that all of the emails got read and categorized.

it was quite fun to be a part of, actually.

[+] armandososa|8 years ago|reply
A long time ago I worked as a "designer" for somebody who owned a chain of medium retail stores in Mexico and a also biggish printshop. When there was a (printed) product was selling very well, he would go to me and ask me to make one as similar as possible so he can manufacture it and get more of the profits.

He did it all the time and didn't care at all for the quality of the product. At first I tried to make the illustrations myself or actually try to do an original spin on the product, but he put pressure to just pull a clip art and call it a day.

Some times I tried to hide some in-jokes or innappropiate stuff just to see if anybody noticed. For example, he once got me to to copy a whole book on some catholic saint, on a hurry, and refuse to pay some one to proff-read it. So I intentionally replaced some words here and there to change the meaning and I even changed the name of the saint to "Batman" in the middle of the book. Nobody ever noticed.

So my guess is that whoever designed this ball is on a similar situation and did put even less effort into doing it, than whoever has the third top answer in the Stackoverflow post. Or maybe she even put a swedish axe just to see if anybody would notice.

[+] Luc|8 years ago|reply
The top answer is a picture of the use of Yxa in a Swedish alphabet learning book, yet there's still people here clinging to the yellow paint tube theory.

Incredible. Not sure what cognitive bias is at play here (or more charitably: perhaps they didn't scroll down).

EDIT: Some say these are pictures of a paint tube and some yellow paint: https://jimthechairmaker.wordpress.com/2014/01/08/my-carving...

The fact that an axe is used in the exact same way in the Swedish book is very strong evidence. There's prior art.

[+] louprado|8 years ago|reply
Assuming this was made in China, there are two sources of confusion that could lead to this mix up.

1. The letter 'A' and an upside down Y-shaped character share the same key on a Chinese/English key board. This could lead to an unintended subconscious relationship between these symbol shapes.[1]

2. The orientation of these characters abruptly changed on the ball graphic between W and Q, leaving the orientation of the Y-shaped letter unclear to someone with minimal familiarity of Latin letters. An upside down Y is also easy to confuse with the letter A if you are not familiar.

This all assumes that Axe was the first common-'A' word selected. Perhaps they postponed the choice of the common-'Y' word given it is challenging. After misattributing Y for A, then someone just added an Apple graphic.

[1] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ef/St...

[+] thedrake|8 years ago|reply
I found the BALL manufacturer!!!! https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Alphabets-print-ball_... (not able to comment on the original thread on the page bc I do not have the 50 points needed. Pls post a link there to further the discovery)
[+] danbron|8 years ago|reply
Can you tell me more about your process? How did you hunt this down?
[+] magic_beans|8 years ago|reply
This was such a delightful read. A quote from the wonderful Okja recently released on Netflix: "Never mistranslate!"... unless you make balls for toddlers!
[+] johan_larson|8 years ago|reply
In fairness, there aren't a lot of good choices for Y.

year yell yacht yellow yearling yeti yoga

I'd probably go with yoga, myself.

[+] yuleanswer|8 years ago|reply
Yule. For Yuletide
[+] coldpie|8 years ago|reply
I'm thrilled that you created an account to post specifically this comment. It is, indeed, a yule answer.
[+] likelynew|8 years ago|reply
I tried to google that without much success. What is that?
[+] TazeTSchnitzel|8 years ago|reply
Which is a phrase used much more in modern Swedish than English.
[+] jrs235|8 years ago|reply
That's what I came to guess too.
[+] ninjakeyboard|8 years ago|reply
Tube of paint squeezing out some yellow sounds reasonable.
[+] metaphor|8 years ago|reply
25 physical. 1 abstract. Internet throws Occam's razor out the window.
[+] BugsJustFindMe|8 years ago|reply
Except that neither the axe head nor the intersection between it and the yellow look anything at all like that.
[+] rangibaby|8 years ago|reply
I'm with you. That "handle" looks like paint to me.
[+] ryan606|8 years ago|reply
One of the best guerilla marketing tactics I've seen in a while.
[+] rplnt|8 years ago|reply
I thought the Worm was a Maggot.
[+] rdiddly|8 years ago|reply
Happily I see that my pet theory involving yaks is represented in the answers; I can now go back to work.
[+] awesomebing1|8 years ago|reply
I've always found English SE to be interesting, because it varies between questions like this with extremely well thought up answers and questions that are so-so.
[+] wallabie|8 years ago|reply
It may still be an axe, but with a silent Y in the front. A 'yaxe', if you will.
[+] racl101|8 years ago|reply
Holy schnikes. I'd love to have that much free time ... and powers of insight.
[+] flipcoder|8 years ago|reply
Looks like yellow paint being sprayed out of the top of a spray paint can