[tzamora]

I guess you are talking processed, adultered meat. If you have normal organic meat there is no problem at all. Likely we have been eating meat from the beginning of our existance. The problem is that the anti meat lobby like peta or sugar-bread industry want us to buy more of their products. Keto is a really good healthy diet its just that requires that you educate yourself and also is really hard to mantain because we are really very addicted to bread, flour and sugar.

[shlant]

> If you have normal organic meat there is no problem at all

Source?

Because all of this seems to show otherwise:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23306319

http://www.bmj.com/content/357/bmj.j1957

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/85/2/518.full

http://cancerpreventionresearch.aacrjournals.org/content/can...

> Likely we have been eating meat from the beginning of our existance

Just because we have evolved eating meat, doesn't necessarily mean it is the most optimal. Appeal to Nature.

> The problem is that the anti meat lobby like peta or sugar-bread industry want us to buy more of their products

What "products" is PETA selling??? I have a lot of qualms with PETA, but I have never seen them vindicated in this way...

> Keto is a really good healthy diet its just that requires that you educate yourself

You seem to be really invested in the diet. Maybe you have some bias?

[nightski]

Look, you can be on a ketogenic diet and not eat meat at all. I eat a few ounces a day. I could easily not eat any at all and still maintain a high fat ketogenic diet, but I enjoy the flavor.

I also have read plenty of studies that contradict the ones above. I'm not saying they are necessarily wrong. But I find medical statistical studies very hard to interpret because they don't control for all the factors and the data is not super reliable. Often the conclusions seem excessive given the data that is actually there.

[thesz]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4944490/?report...

Also please read China Study critiques. They are good at dismantling "red meat is bad" point of view.

[KitDuncan]

I really hate this argument. On one hand Keto advocates cry about the grain and sugar lobby, on the other they don't even consider the massive outreach the livestock lobby has and their interest in pushing this diet.

Even organic meat and animal products don't come without health risks and it comes at substantial cost to our environment.

[nightski]

You don't have to eat a lot of meat on this diet. I've been on the diet for years, have read a lot of information on it (fortunately it's been used for medical purposes for over 100 years so there is plenty of material). I personally eat a few ounces a day because I enjoy it. But it could easily be left out, I'd just have to get my protein elsewhere.

[brookside]

Why would organic meat be better? Link to science?

[scottLobster]

In the case of Beef, grass fed beef has substantially better fat/cholesterol profile, and more micro-nutrients/antioxidants

https://nutritionj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1475-2... http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/heart-disease/...

Granted that's a relative judgement. Too much meat, even organic meat, can be unhealthy depending on a number of factors.

[cageface]

Even organic meat and fish has a lot of downsides. Animal fat and protein is not good for us. Check the videos at nutritionfacts.org for details.

[shirro]

nurtitionfacts.org is run by Michael Greger who is a vegan animal welfare crusader. Many of the articles have a factual basis but there is cherry picking to promote animal free diets so it is not an unbiased source.