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luke3butler | 8 years ago

"Literally, I woke up in a bad mood and decided someone shouldn’t be allowed on the Internet. No one should have that power."

I've been jumping back and forth over the fence on this topic, but this stance is where I've ended up.

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sulam|8 years ago

I think he's overstating the case. There are plenty of ways for that content to get on the internet that don't involve CloudFlare.

luke3butler|8 years ago

Booting them off cloudflare caused downtime at best.

joelrunyon|8 years ago

I'm struggling to connect these two phrases:

"No one should have that power"

"I woke up in a bad mood and decided someone shouldn't be allowed on the Internet"

Seems like a very tricky precedent to set that you can just not allow someone on the internet.

The natural question from this is: how long until this type of power is used against views you support?

krapp|8 years ago

>The natural question from this is: how long until this type of power is used against views you support?

I'm conflicted. On the one hand, I support free speech, even when the speech is hateful and malignant, because I honestly believe the best way to combat vile ideas is out in the open where people can see them, hear them, discuss them and repudiate them. Cultures can't innoculate themselves against ideas without an intellectual herd immunity, and that is impossible without mass exposure.

On the other hand, fuck Nazis.

I think I'm quite willing to let them come for the Nazis then start caring when they come for the Socialists and Trade Unionists, etc. If that makes me a hypocrite, so be it.

Of course, on the third hand, I have no real power over anyone else's speech, and I'm just some rando on the internet, so it doesn't really matter what I think.

r3bl|8 years ago

I mean, he just has the authority over the company and can deny service to them, he can't effectively shut them down. Just give them downtime. I would compare this to a DoS more than a shut down.

bwb|8 years ago

It is not they can't be on the internet, it is we are not going to help them spread their message.