[coop-throwaway]

Never before could a woman open an app and literally have hundreds of men at her door within minutes (all while men struggle to get a single match). This has created such an imbalance that the women are able to reject roughly the bottom 80% of men leaving most men struggling to get the attention of the bottom 20% of women.

And yes, there are lots of men with shortcomings, physical ones, that have rendered them out of the modern dating pool whereas in the past they would have met an equivalent woman. That's no longer the case as that equivalent woman can demand a much higher quality man -- there's an unlimited supply of men to pick from.

[lsc]

I think it is worse (and better) than it seems when you assume that your competition is other men.

It's not that you have to prove yourself better than other men; you have to prove that being with you is better than being alone.

Harder than that, you don't only have to prove yourself, you have to continue to remain better than being alone.

(I mean, I'm typing this from a male perspective, because that's what I know, and because I think that men have always had more freedom to 'opt out' than women, meaning that women having this power to 'opt out' is a relatively new phenomena, but I imagine that this cuts both ways)

Emancipation, I think, is a social good... and yes, that means we all will spend more time alone, but being alone is dramatically better, in my experience, than being in a bad relationship, even if it's dramatically worse than being in a good relationship. But maintaining a relationship is difficult, and now that most people have the option of saying "I'd rather be alone" many of them do, at least some of the time.

[mannigfaltig]

The statistics in this article contradict what you say: http://www.slate.com/articles/life/moneybox/2015/05/sex_hist...

[dang]

Please don't reply to a problematic comment by making the thread still worse. I realize it's hard to resist, but we have to ban accounts that attack other users this way, regardless of how correct your underlying point is.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

[bitL]

I think there was some machine learning-based article from some dating site (PoF? Tinder?) a few years back that more-less supported those claims? I don't use dating apps so have no idea what the "market" is but I am sure dating sites have the ability to extract perfect stats - maybe somebody from there could chip in and tell us? "Applied Sociology" anyone?

[coop-throwaway]

I don't feel cheated. I'm married with kids and had great luck with women. I care about the social aspects of this.

[coop-throwaway]

No. I'm married. With children. I'm very interested in the social aspects of this though.