[cnp]

It's very important that people understand _how_ and _why_ the flux pattern is valuable before they start using Redux, especially if coming from an MVC background. Once you understand that, the learning curve drops away revealing an extremely minimal and easy-to-use library.

[allover]

> extremely minimal and easy-to-use library.

'Extremely minimal' is hyperbole and 'easy-to-use' is subjective. I disagree with this as an absolute statement. I think there's a trade off, and it potentially harms onboarding for some teams, see my sibling-ish comment.

[cnp]

I agree with your comment, but disagree that all of the concepts you listed need be understood completely when just getting started. Once the flow is recognized (which in my experience teaching others rarely takes more than a single pairing session) there's basically nothing left but a few functions that pass data in a circle. Everything else that you described comes later, and that later doesn't take long.

[gedy]

Yes, but I don't see this same difficulty with say, MobX. People seem to 'get it' and are as productive as Redux from what I see.